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Arantor

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Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« on February 15th, 2013, 05:44 AM »
It's something that we've sort of talked about before now.

Obviously some kind of method of indicating a post was deleted is needed, and some way of getting it back is also needed, as well as keeping it in context (something the current implementation can't do)

I've mocked up what I think the general admin/moderator view would be under what I've been proposing - the regular view of course is without the link to see the full version. Also note the wording 'deleted by a moderator'. If it was deleted by its author (moderator or otherwise) it would have different wording (i.e. deleted by its author)

This would also mean deleted topics wouldn't disappear off the normal board listing either.

As a result I can see this causing trouble so I'm just putting it out for discussion but this is the direction I think we want to be going.

Of course full on deletion by moderators will be possible, so you will be able to remove even the 'deleted by moderator' bits if you so desired.

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Re: Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« Reply #3, on February 15th, 2013, 11:49 AM »
Yeah, this is one of the things I've always wanted to get rid of... I think we've talked about it for over 2 years now, but Pete wasn't so sure, so I'm just surprised he came up with the actual implementation. ^_^

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Re: Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« Reply #4, on February 15th, 2013, 12:27 PM »
I haven't implemented anything yet - this is literally just a mockup. But I think this is probably the most workable way to ditch the recycle bin without losing the safety net of posts being deleted but not permanently deleted (unless the admin/moderator so intends)

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Re: Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« Reply #5, on February 15th, 2013, 01:27 PM »
But this is how I suggested to do it, AFAICR..? Or am I wrong?

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Re: Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« Reply #6, on February 15th, 2013, 01:42 PM »
It's how I suggested originally ages back though I may not have explained it very well what I had in mind.

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Re: Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« Reply #7, on February 15th, 2013, 03:42 PM »
I can say I dont really care for the deleted topics being shown on the listing but... meh i tend to roll with the majority. Could there be an option to hide deleted posts/topics from the listing or would that bring about issues?
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Re: Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« Reply #8, on February 15th, 2013, 03:45 PM »
I don't think it would create particular issues off the top of my head, but I'd need to sit and play with it to be sure about performance.

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Re: Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« Reply #9, on February 15th, 2013, 04:56 PM »
Oh, all right. I thought it mainly meant that you'd solved the performance concern you had, that ultimately ended all of our earlier conversations on the subject... ;)

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Re: Bye Bye Recycle Bin?
« Reply #10, on February 15th, 2013, 04:58 PM »
Nope. The performance concern is still ultimately there. It is really not a significant change on top of what's already in place for post moderation.

It's mostly avoidable by tracking in a given topic whether or not there are deleted or moderated (currently moderated posts are recorded), which means it's possible to not add the extra conditions in Display if you know you don't need to check for them.

Of course, it's entirely possible that I'm just overcautious...
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