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Arantor

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Disallowing edits to posts
« on February 12th, 2012, 05:40 PM »
Well, more than once Nao and I talked about logging the user id of the person who edits a post. Maybe we can use that to prune some of the data from the table, maybe we won't do that yet, don't know. (It's not a huge deal if we decide to do that, put it that way.)

But what this does mean is that we can identify who last edited a post, and more importantly, we can figure out if either the last editor is the post author or not, or even if the last editor is actually a moderator.

This means we can (quickly but maybe slightly inaccurately, or slower but guaranteed accurate) identify whether the post was edited by a moderator and potentially disallow future edits to that post, by non moderators.

Would you use such a feature? Would you want it enabled by default (that if a post is edited by someone other than the author, only a moderator can edit it further)? Something further?
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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #1, on February 12th, 2012, 05:52 PM »
I think it's a good idea and I would definitely use it. I don't know about enabling it by default, but I would definitely use it :)

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #2, on February 12th, 2012, 07:00 PM »
I like it. Expanding upon the said idea, I've always wanted a hierarchy type system. So that a low life cannot overwrite the actions of a admin or higher moderator.
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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #3, on February 12th, 2012, 07:13 PM »
Well, that part is sort of the idea, though I'm not sure what else you'd need to do (since locks are also similarly covered; there is an internal difference between a non-moderator locking their own topic and a moderator lock, and the non mod cannot override the mod lock)

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #4, on February 12th, 2012, 07:17 PM »
Quote from Arantor on February 12th, 2012, 07:13 PM
Well, that part is sort of the idea, though I'm not sure what else you'd need to do (since locks are also similarly covered; there is an internal difference between a non-moderator locking their own topic and a moderator lock, and the non mod cannot override the mod lock)
But a mod can overwrite a global moderator's lock, can't they?

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #5, on February 12th, 2012, 07:22 PM »
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But a mod can overwrite a global moderator's lock, can't they?
True enough. However, I don't want to get into that debate because you risk having to cope with not 3 states (unlocked, soft lock, hard lock) but 5 (unlocked, user lock, mod lock, global mod lock, admin lock) and you can just bet some people will want even more complex solutions where they have staff who are in group x but not group y etc... far better to keep it simple.

Also, I'm not convinced that for something like lock or pin that you need to apply a technical/logistical solution for what is ultimately a non-technical problem - if you have a moderator who keeps screwing around, remove them from being a moderator.

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #6, on February 12th, 2012, 07:25 PM »
Quote from Arantor on February 12th, 2012, 07:22 PM
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But a mod can overwrite a global moderator's lock, can't they?
True enough. However, I don't want to get into that debate because you risk having to cope with not 3 states (unlocked, soft lock, hard lock) but 5 (unlocked, user lock, mod lock, global mod lock, admin lock) and you can just bet some people will want even more complex solutions where they have staff who are in group x but not group y etc... far better to keep it simple.

Also, I'm not convinced that for something like lock or pin that you need to apply a technical/logistical solution for what is ultimately a non-technical problem - if you have a moderator who keeps screwing around, remove them from being a moderator.
Fair enough.

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #7, on February 12th, 2012, 07:27 PM »
Don't get me wrong, I can see situations where it would be useful, I'm just not convinced that the 'out of the box' experience with Wedge needs that, but I'm keen to avoid implementing technical solutions when there are more effective people solutions.

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #8, on February 12th, 2012, 09:34 PM »
As far as I am concerned no one but the author, mods or admins should be able to edit  a post.
On forums where anyone can edit posts, all I can see are flame wars and derogatory comments arising.
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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #9, on February 12th, 2012, 09:41 PM »
That isn't in dispute, and normal permissions can cope with that. This suggestion is primarily for the case where a moderator edits a post and the author edits it back.

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #10, on February 12th, 2012, 10:27 PM »
What about giving the mod the choice when they ed it a post if  they want to luck it from future author edits instead/in addition to it being  a  global admin setting?
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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #11, on February 12th, 2012, 10:45 PM »
Interesting idea, though it means another column we would only use very occasionally.

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #12, on February 12th, 2012, 11:15 PM »
Quote from Arantor on February 12th, 2012, 09:41 PM
That isn't in dispute, and normal permissions can cope with that. This suggestion is primarily for the case where a moderator edits a post and the author edits it back.
Sorry, totally misread your OP

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #13, on February 12th, 2012, 11:59 PM »
Maybe this kind of 'post can't be edited by author' thing should be part of a future 'data' field.
Other elements that could be part of it (i.e. anything that's not searchable, but only used when showing the post):
- modified_time
- modified_name
- smileys_enabled?
- poster_email?
- subject??? (maybe not -- topic-wide renames, etc.)

That's still quite a lot of data that could be moved there.

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Re: Disallowing edits to posts
« Reply #14, on February 13th, 2012, 12:13 AM »
Subject, no, but the others could be I guess.

But I don't see that as a 'right now' thing, though certainly now would be the sort of time if it were going to happen.
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