I'm assuming 'Words' sounds bad in English, then...?
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It's just less pronounceable to me.
But that's okay! I just figured that if someone found a better word for Thoughts, they should feel free to participate :)
(Pete, could you also tell me your 'thoughts' on the current Wedge implementation of thoughts..? Is it okay for you? I know I'm still missing showing off the Edit/Reply/Delete buttons because ahem there's no 'latest thoughts' list on the homepage for now. Only on my install. Will commit something tomorrow in that respect.)
But that's okay! I just figured that if someone found a better word for Thoughts, they should feel free to participate :)
Posted: November 7th, 2011, 11:37 PM
(Pete, could you also tell me your 'thoughts' on the current Wedge implementation of thoughts..? Is it okay for you? I know I'm still missing showing off the Edit/Reply/Delete buttons because ahem there's no 'latest thoughts' list on the homepage for now. Only on my install. Will commit something tomorrow in that respect.)
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I've just been so wrapped up with other stuff I haven't even looked at it yet :(
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Unless we borrow from Google+ and call it a stream...
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Insight or pondering... anything is better then words :/
Edited to add: I like "Thoughts." The name makes one pause and think before they post... wonder what Facebook/Twitter would be like if its own wording made on think for a split second.
Edited to add: I like "Thoughts." The name makes one pause and think before they post... wonder what Facebook/Twitter would be like if its own wording made on think for a split second.
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Is it worth splitting the Thought object into its own file...?
It is 3.09KB for now, and possibly more in the future.
Pros:
- this saves about 1KB (after minification and gzipping) for guests (9.48KB -> 8.65KB)
Cons:
- adds a '-thoughts' or something to the script URL (not a big deal)
- adds extra file_existes/filemtime etc on each page load
- why move only one object to its own file, and not all? (only, all other objects are called by guests too...)
So at this point... I'm not exactly sure what's best.
It is 3.09KB for now, and possibly more in the future.
Pros:
- this saves about 1KB (after minification and gzipping) for guests (9.48KB -> 8.65KB)
Cons:
- adds a '-thoughts' or something to the script URL (not a big deal)
- adds extra file_existes/filemtime etc on each page load
- why move only one object to its own file, and not all? (only, all other objects are called by guests too...)
So at this point... I'm not exactly sure what's best.
Bump.
Also... What's left to integrate into Wedge before I can install it on Wedge.org...?
I'm not sure at this point. I'll keep a copy of the database (and site) around in a sub-folder after making the switch, so I can easily import anything missing, but I'd like to be sure I have as much available as possible beforehand.
Also... What's left to integrate into Wedge before I can install it on Wedge.org...?
I'm not sure at this point. I'll keep a copy of the database (and site) around in a sub-folder after making the switch, so I can easily import anything missing, but I'd like to be sure I have as much available as possible beforehand.
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Blog support might need tidying up, but that's it really. Just need to remember board access UI doesn't work if more boards are created.
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Yep, yep...
My, is it me or are we just in a quiet period? :P
I'm hurrying up to finish Risen (which I long left taking dust in a shelf if I may say), before I get to start Skyrim... Plus I'm starting to hate taking two weeks to implement something I originally intended to do in two days... :whistle:
My, is it me or are we just in a quiet period? :P
I'm hurrying up to finish Risen (which I long left taking dust in a shelf if I may say), before I get to start Skyrim... Plus I'm starting to hate taking two weeks to implement something I originally intended to do in two days... :whistle:
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Also... What's left to integrate into Wedge before I can install it on Wedge.org...?
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No, it isn't dropped... It's just scary. The amount of work involved in this... Considering it took me 7 more time to implement thoughts than expected, and I expect the attachment/avatar rewrite to take a week at best, that would make it 7 weeks if I'm optimistic... :^^;:
Thing is, we *can* perfectly use Wedge here without doing the rewrite, because once the feature is written, I'll write an internal converter to turn regular attachments into AeMe items. Or we'll just include it into your importer... (IIRC one can do a partial import of only some specific data... Well maybe I can import the current database's attachment table into the current database's media table :P)
All media items at wedge.org at considered 'temporary' anyway. They may or may not be deleted later.
Thing is, we *can* perfectly use Wedge here without doing the rewrite, because once the feature is written, I'll write an internal converter to turn regular attachments into AeMe items. Or we'll just include it into your importer... (IIRC one can do a partial import of only some specific data... Well maybe I can import the current database's attachment table into the current database's media table :P)
All media items at wedge.org at considered 'temporary' anyway. They may or may not be deleted later.
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I can see why you think of it as a scary undertaking, Nao, really.
To be quite honest, I'm still not entirely sold on the idea of dropping the current attachment system in favour of a system completely integrated with the media gallery.
Here's a crazy idea: make Wedge an attachment-less system by default, and let webmasters choose between two plugins: the current attachment system (i.e. SMF's) or the Aeva Media Gallery.
Probably a crazy idea, but wanted to post it regardless. ;)
To be quite honest, I'm still not entirely sold on the idea of dropping the current attachment system in favour of a system completely integrated with the media gallery.
Here's a crazy idea: make Wedge an attachment-less system by default, and let webmasters choose between two plugins: the current attachment system (i.e. SMF's) or the Aeva Media Gallery.
Probably a crazy idea, but wanted to post it regardless. ;)
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Would mean current installs would be unable to use AeMe..?
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I know why it's complex, but if you turn it round a bit, it makes sense.
The core attachment system has two principle weaknesses, in my book: firstly, it's not extensible, and secondly its management capabilities are limited.
Really, all an attachment is is a file uploaded to the system... Post attachments are restricted by the topic permissions, album attachments by the album permissions. The more you look, the clearer it is that they have an awful lot in common, probably more than is realised.
And I'm not really seeing the problems with doing it, other than the fear of doing it. All the issues related to how I think it can be made extensible aren't really issues at all, I already covered off how that would likely work, at least in my head, by giving each item a source to have originated from (both a place and a contextual id, such as album+1 for an item in album 1 or help desk+2 for an item attached to a helpdesk ticket, etc.)
The core attachment system has two principle weaknesses, in my book: firstly, it's not extensible, and secondly its management capabilities are limited.
Really, all an attachment is is a file uploaded to the system... Post attachments are restricted by the topic permissions, album attachments by the album permissions. The more you look, the clearer it is that they have an awful lot in common, probably more than is realised.
And I'm not really seeing the problems with doing it, other than the fear of doing it. All the issues related to how I think it can be made extensible aren't really issues at all, I already covered off how that would likely work, at least in my head, by giving each item a source to have originated from (both a place and a contextual id, such as album+1 for an item in album 1 or help desk+2 for an item attached to a helpdesk ticket, etc.)
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Which is hardly indexable?