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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #15, on October 27th, 2013, 10:59 PM »
Quote from Nao on October 27th, 2013, 10:54 PM
When you have a wide choice available to you, you tend to choose what makes you more productive.
Precisely. That's why I disabled all toolbars and scrollbars in Emacs. PHP coding is a keyboard-only task. Just define shortcuts for anything you need and you're done. Mouses (well, "mice" are something different) are sooo 1980s.

Again, how is Emacs's GUI related to being productive using the editor?
Quote from Nao on October 27th, 2013, 10:54 PM
The same applies to browsers, BTW.
Browsers are not directly related to being productive, they're plain viewer applications. OTOH, I use Firefox because I can use it faster than the other browsers, but that's not "productive", it's just getting used to it.
Quote from Nao on October 27th, 2013, 10:54 PM
An old one, too...
Your point this time.

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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #16, on October 27th, 2013, 11:06 PM »
Quote from forumsearch0r on October 27th, 2013, 10:59 PM
Precisely. That's why I disabled all toolbars and scrollbars in Emacs. PHP coding is a keyboard-only task. Just define shortcuts for anything you need and you're done. Mouses (well, "mice" are something different) are sooo 1980s.
Hmm, but what if you're in a file with thousands of lines..?

Reminds me of Sublime Text 2. It's a pretty good editor, but it's very... original, in its own way. Check it out, if you've never heard of it. Not my cup of tea, but I recognize it's nicely done.
Quote from forumsearch0r on October 27th, 2013, 10:59 PM
Browsers are not directly related to being productive, they're plain viewer applications. OTOH, I use Firefox because I can use it faster than the other browsers, but that's not "productive", it's just getting used to it.
They're viewers, but when you're a power surfer like me, who likes having 1000+ tabs open at the same time, I can assure you, you want everything to be to your advantage, otherwise you'll just switch browsers... ;)

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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #17, on October 27th, 2013, 11:10 PM »
Quote from Nao on October 27th, 2013, 11:06 PM
Hmm, but what if you're in a file with thousands of lines..?
How can a toolbar help me better than a shortcut in such a file (which might be the result of someone not knowing about using include commands :hmm: ...)?
Quote from Nao on October 27th, 2013, 11:06 PM
Reminds me of Sublime Text 2. It's a pretty good editor, but it's very... original, in its own way. Check it out, if you've never heard of it.
I switched from Vim to Sublime Text 2, from Sublime Text 2 to Sublime Text 3 Alpha, then to Emacs because of the pricing. One license is more than enough for one lifetime. Also, it can do less than Emacs. And it is less configurable.
Quote from Nao on October 27th, 2013, 11:06 PM
They're viewers, but when you're a power surfer like me, who likes having 1000+ tabs open at the same time
That's not "power surfing", it's "not understanding the concept behind tab groups and bookmarks". At least that's platform-independent.

Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #18, on October 28th, 2013, 12:00 AM »
forumsearch0r

If you have anything to do seriously with web design, and coding, you will see how stupid it is to say that "Browsers are not directly related to being productive, they're plain viewer applications."

We coders and designers RELY on browsers in order to BE productive. If not for the use of different browsers, then we'd never get our projects done correctly. We need to use browsers as top listed tools to make sure what we make is usable in all browsers.

So, your saying that Browsers are not directly related to being productive, they're plain viewer applications, is the biggest load of BS I've ever seen come from you. Do not worry, I have seen plenty from you, so I doubt you need to worry about running out.

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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #19, on October 28th, 2013, 12:05 AM »
So "BS" is a part of the commonly accepted language here? Well then, good to know that I don't necessarily have to be a friendly pal. I'll come back to that when it's appropriate. - No, I don't work as a web designer. My current job consists of creating the backend for web designs though.

Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #20, on October 28th, 2013, 12:08 AM »
Either way, you should know how important of tools browsers are for designers and CODERS...

That comment was just plain stupid and ignorant.
Enough so, that I highly doubt your claims of grandeur in coding.
That, plus earlier discussions tend to make me think you are something, and what you say you are, is not it.

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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #21, on October 28th, 2013, 12:16 AM »
I can perfectly live with whatever you with your modding team leadership think I am. In fact, your POV is not relevant for my job. Anyway, I love how comments like "I highly doubt your claims of grandeur in coding" are just plain stupid and ignorant, given that you haven't read one single line of PHP code of mine yet.

Someone's arrogant here, eh?

Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #22, on October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM »
Trust me...
I am the first to admit that my coding is not the greatest.
I also, admit when I don't know jack about something.

However, it does seem that you do not have those abilities.
Also, I did a search on you, and what I found, has done a lot, to confirm suspicions I voiced about you when you first got here and started to attack someone, without knowing the whole story. You, it seems to me, as well as several others that I talk with, are nothing but a troll.

I find it odd that you have gone to just about every fork of SMF, and almost demanding info that they don't care to share. You tell some people you know this, and others that you know that. Yet, when questioned, it seems you either mess up on your end of the discussion, or you disappear for a bit.

So, tell us... Why does it seem that way? What is you real interest in Wedge and ElkArte?
What do you plan on doing? Making a fork and using things from both to make a combo?
Well? If so great at what you do, why not ask to do some coding for them?

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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #23, on October 28th, 2013, 12:35 AM »
Quote from BurkeKnight on October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM
However, it does seem that you do not have those abilities.
"Seem". Right. Now what?
Quote from BurkeKnight on October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM
You, it seems to me, as well as several others that I talk with, are nothing but a troll.
Maybe this whole discussion would be much easier to handle if you'd stop wrapping questions in accusations.
Quote from BurkeKnight on October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM
I find it odd that you have gone to just about every fork of SMF
"Every fork"? Oh, yes. I'm registered here because I like how Wedge is done, then on ElkArte after it has been advertised here just to find and report a bug there. That makes two, right?
Quote from BurkeKnight on October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM
What is you real interest in Wedge and ElkArte?
Which part of my nickname needs further explanations? I guess I announced it on some general "forum searcher board" under this nickname before I found Wedge: I'm planning a German community with a focus on one topic, currently narrowing down the choice of board systems to use as the base.
Quote from BurkeKnight on October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM
What do you plan on doing?
Establishing a German community with a focus on one topic, currently narrowing down the choice of board systems to use as the base.
Quote from BurkeKnight on October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM
Making a fork and using things from both to make a combo?
I could already fork ElkArte, but why should I?
Quote from BurkeKnight on October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM
If so great at what you do, why not ask to do some coding for them?
Just because I technically know how to build a hammer, why shouldn't I buy one instead when I need to put a nail into my wall?

Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #24, on October 28th, 2013, 12:43 AM »
September 5th, 08:16 PM    Actions…forumsearch0r » O hai! I found here from the SMF forum, looking for a good forum software I can thoroughly test. Now where can I find the current revs? I know web development too, so I might even find weird quirks. :) (…)

Funny... I never once had been able to find you at SMF site. You must have used a different name there, I guess.

Look, I don't know who you are, or what you actually want. However, I stand by what I suspect.
There is just a little too much about how you have handled yourself here, that shows there's more to you than meets the eye.

I may not be staff here, but I know Nao, and I will even call him a friend.
I look out for my friends, and that is all there is to it.

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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #25, on October 28th, 2013, 06:53 AM »
I won't answer point by point, as this is getting a bit out of control, and I can feel that you're now argumenting for the sake of argumenting, guys...

I've often been guilty of that, and I'm none the wiser for it.
So... To put things into perspective: forumsearch0r, IIRC, is the one guy who registered here right around the day Pete decided to leave the team. Given his interest in the (newly found) Wedge platform, he was of course interested in seeing it 'work', and thus not happy to see Pete leave; so, he took the antagonist position to BK's defense of Pete (I'm not sure it was BK, but I know it was a non-regular poster), and so, for no special reason, you're now starting it all again, but on a personal level this time.

Guys, I don't think any of you has a 'problem', and there's no point in fighting over little problems like this.
forumsearch0r never made it clear he wanted to help develop Wedge; while he did say he was capable, he also never requested an alpha copy, or SVN read access, or Git read access (although in this case, I'm not even sure the change to a Git server was even mentioned in the public area. Ahum.)
He does strike me as a bit of a 'know-it-all', though, more than a troll. When I want to recommend a product, I'll explain why it's better. So far, FS has only made it clear that he preferred Emacs, but didn't give examples of things it can't do that others can't. I've been guilty, in my fouth, of knowitallite, its curable, but it will disappear by itself once you've have about a hundred flame wars about tech products. (For me, it all started with "the Amiga is better than the Atari ST"... The agony!)
BK, I'm not sure why you'd call yourself a friend of mine since I recently felt you were uncomfortable with me (or at least not trusting of me) during a conversation, but really, I don't mind. Call it whatever you want; even though I was bit many times in the past, it's in my nature to naturally trust people to be good-doers rather than wait until they brought the proof of it. (Because we all see ourselves as good-doers, after all. We just need to learn how one's freedom ends where the next man's freedom begins.)

anyway... It's not even 7am, and I'm already babbling on an Internet forum.

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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #26, on October 28th, 2013, 07:41 AM »
But the Amiga is better than Atari ST.

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Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #28, on October 28th, 2013, 11:32 AM »
Good morning, Nao! :ph34r:
Quote from Nao on October 28th, 2013, 06:53 AM
forumsearch0r never made it clear he wanted to help develop Wedge; while he did say he was capable, he also never requested an alpha copy, or SVN read access, or Git read access (although in this case, I'm not even sure the change to a Git server was even mentioned in the public area. Ahum.)
The Wedge website says there are currently no requirements for additional team members, so I accept and don't bother you with my mighty skills (which aren't perfect anyway). Also, my spare time is rather limited until December or so. :-/
Quote from Nao on October 28th, 2013, 06:53 AM
FS has only made it clear that he preferred Emacs, but didn't give examples of things it can't do that others can't.
Well, I tried. You might want to spend some time with it to "get" it though. :)
But I don't think the software I use is the software everyone should use.

Re: Stupid git?
« Reply #29, on October 28th, 2013, 11:51 AM »
That is a very true statement.
It's like the editor in cPanel... Some people hate it with a passion, yet others swear it's better and faster...LOL

Everyone has their own thoughts on a program, as well as anything else...

However, I found it odd how things started with you, FS, and that is why I have been like I am.
If I'm wrong, then I deeply apologize, but if I'm not wrong, then do know, I wont give in. ;)

But then, if you are anything like a normal human being, like the rest of us, you would expect that. ;)

* BurkeKnight does often wonder if Nao is 100% human... His coding skills seem to point to some microchips installed... :P