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Arantor

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Documentary Videos
« on December 5th, 2012, 03:08 AM »
I've been thinking about doing some videos about Wedge's features - not unlike the 'Have You Seen' board in XenForo's main community forum.

Partly it lets me showcase some of the things we do have, and partly it lets me explain things in a way that I just can't with a conventional forum post.

Thoughts? I don't want to automatically jump at GoogleTube because I think they're just as bad as anything else going on in the Google Tentacly Monster. But I'm not sure any of the others are any better.[1]
 1. GooTube gives effectively free bandwidth, with ads. Vimeo... Vimeo actually sucks. Plus would be ideal but for videos that 'promote', that would be the much more expensive Pro account. Mind you, that didn't seem to stop XenForo... guess it depends on the difference between promotion and discussion.
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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #1, on December 5th, 2012, 03:11 AM »
Great idea, and no thoughts on video hosts.
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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #2, on December 5th, 2012, 03:21 AM »
What got me started on this - aside from remembering that XenForo had done it because it's a good idea - is the complexity of the moderation filters setup. It's a very, very powerful facility, and it needs some explanation that a manual probably doesn't cover very well.

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #3, on December 5th, 2012, 05:06 AM »
Like the idea, no thoughts on hosts either
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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #4, on December 5th, 2012, 05:08 AM »
It's either that or I contemplate hosting it myself. I've never done that, could be an interesting process.

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #6, on December 5th, 2012, 05:12 AM »
It's just that it's likely to be fairly heavy on bandwidth - but it's not like we're *that* high traffic ;)

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #7, on December 5th, 2012, 05:25 AM »
Both good points, maybe by the time it gets busy another solution may rear its head.

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #8, on December 5th, 2012, 05:32 AM »
Well, I did a search on 'self hosting videos' and interestingly all of them seem to come back to the notion that putting it on YouTube exposes the video to additional visitors through searching, which even as cynical as I am about Google's tentacleness, that's not entirely a bad idea.

Then again, there's this. NSFW due to language.

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #9, on December 5th, 2012, 11:24 AM »
Probably hosting here on wedge.org is the best thing. No one will search for wedge on YouTube, if they're going to search for wedge they would do that on google and end up here :)

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #10, on December 5th, 2012, 12:40 PM »
Except that bandwidth of videos is pretty huge (especially if it's a popular video), and needs to be in multiple formats - plus the files for higher quality (which is advantageous for what I'm suggesting) are huge.

But the thing is, if they search on Google, they can get the videos shown up there too ;)

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #11, on December 5th, 2012, 02:57 PM »
Pretty nice idea, always loved video tutorials in pretty much every case (I studied for my practical examinations from videos :P).
Quote from MultiformeIngegno on December 5th, 2012, 11:24 AM
Probably hosting here on wedge.org is the best thing. No one will search for wedge on YouTube, if they're going to search for wedge they would do that on google and end up here :)
I'm with Arantor on this one. A half decent 480p has a bitrate of 500-600kbps for video and 128kbps for audio, that's 700-800kbps. A 10 minute video would account for about ~55MB. And this is a fairly crappy resolution/bitrate, plus videos are not cached and can easily account for hundreds of MB of bandwidth for a single user. Going with something like YouTube is a good idea in this case.
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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #12, on December 5th, 2012, 07:32 PM »
I'm probably wrong and this wouldn't work but.. what if we serve the video from a different host/domain totally cached (it would only be the videos) by CloudFlare?

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #13, on December 5th, 2012, 08:20 PM »
It's still not really as cached as you might appear - and the bandwidth is still non-trivial enough to consider it.

Even the 2-3 minute videos I've done in the past have been near enough 100MB, and 100MB times even 100 users is 10GB, and I'm hoping to get more than 100 views on them... ;)

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Re: Documentary Videos
« Reply #14, on December 7th, 2012, 04:57 PM »
I like the idea. My thought on hosting: why not just use 'the enemy''? That's the best use of him.
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