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Arantor,

I don't DENY any state of affairs.

I DENY her accusations which are delusional.
Neither the org nor the project has "chased away" any members, developers or otherwise.
neither the org nor the project has told any developers how to code
neither the org nor the project has tried to take away anyone's right to their own code or "steal" copyright.

SM does not claim copyright to any individual code.
SM claims copyright to the work as a whole, compiled piece. The copyright statement was correctly updated to reflect copyright held by SM and individual contributors.
SHE is the one who illegally changed/removed the copyright statement. (and I will note, she did so after resigning from the lead dev position the organization and the team - so she had no right to change anything. yes, someone should have gotten around to fixing her commit rights before then, but that's a different matter)
(and we never said that developers must assign copyright to the corporation. We stated that the corporation owns the copyright to the compiled work, seeing as how the lead developer has final say on what code is included - and the lead developer is acting for the project and the corporation in that role (it's not an individual, it's a role which can be and has been held by many individuals over the course of the software))

and the org server and site teams have never denied access to resources for actual needs - for random and ill-thought meaderings, yes...for actual, conceived and stated purposes, no.
(and I'll note that, when Norv was granted root access to certain servers, she abused that access)

sorry. At this point you have used up any good will I had toward you.

I have three words for you, on this site and any otther.

Go to hell.

I don't have a problem with people responding the way I do.... and I have never said otherwise. :P
Arantor does it all the time and I don't call him on it.

Document all you like. I don't delete my posts, so anyone who really cares enough can go back through my posts and see my responses at any time.

As for the locking and where I was.
I took my dog for a walk. When I got back, the thread had been started, escalated and locked...  before I got to read any bit of it.

And one thing...  Don't you *DARE* call me a coward. I
'll argue with you... I'll get into debates and I won't hold any of that BS against you (or anyone else)  call me names like that and I *WILL* take issue with that. Your name calling was uncalled for and inappropriate.
I say what I mean. I mean what I say.
I don't lie. (I may be mistaken, I may have to retract previous statements, but I do not lie based on my knowledge at the time)

rotfl...   just a nod to the previous debate, not re-entering the fray. :)

my point was not about validity of opinion, but the "crushed logic" :)

As I said, your argument that they let you (and me, for that matter) get away with the same comment to the OP was really the only logical argument in the bunch. :D
... and xrunner, it wasn't so much your comment that got the topic split as the fact that you wouldn't let it go.
Even Arantor and I backed off after making our opinion known on the OP's request.
(and by the time you joined with your comment, they had moved beyond the "something is wrong"  and into "I really would like to change this" and Kays was helping him do just that. :))

wanchope... you have missed the point of standardized nomenclature.\

Yes, Android gives releases food names.
You will note that whatever codename they give development, they don't actually mess with the nomenclature of the release structure.
"JellyBean" is officially Android OS, release 4.1.0


you can not have a beta alpha RC. that just does not make any sense.
You should never have anything other than ONE level and whole numbers.
in other words.
Alpha
Beta
RC1
maybe RC2
gold release.
(Although SMF is known for having multiple betas, that has more to do with the widespread use of the betas and the fact that they don't get many bugs reported on beta1

there was the dodgy chameleon circuit which had the tardis stuck as a police box (although he did apparently get the invisibility circuit working - at least for the one "silence" epsiode)

but we also, through all doctors til the present have the tardis randomly heading off on whatever location tweaked her fancy. Only recently has the doctore actually gotten some decent control over where he takes the ship. :)

and yeah.. debug mode...   which should never be used by anyone except the developers. :)
(and ok...   I'll go back further - Jamie could fly the damned thing!)

angels take Manhattan had more of that silly "time as magic" crap.

Asylum was pretty good... the Clara in that episode was cool...   and she was even cooler in the Snowmen.
I dunno...  Looking back, I don't think I liked the Bells very much at all.

All in all, I dislike what they have done with Clara as a permanent character.
I dislike what they are doing to the doctor (intensely!)
I have not liked the episodes themselves.... I think I see where they are going with the uber-plot... and if I am right I have only a partial acceptance of the crap they are paving the path with.

I possibly may like the uber-arc... but I have been extremely disappointed in the episodes so far.