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Off-topic / Re: Something kind of crazy
« on September 20th, 2011, 07:13 PM »
Steam's awesome, I even haven't played half of the games I've got(Don't think I'll ever), but I still got them since they were quote a steal.
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Off-topic / Re: PHP IDE for windows
« on September 20th, 2011, 05:25 PM »
Sorry, I find it good. Windows 8's UI is different but I like it, there aren't many metro apps so I can't use it much but from what I see it has a good potential. It's fairly stable, hasn't crashed for me so far. VS itself is good as well, just started using it so will comment on it later.
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Off-topic / Re: PHP IDE for windows
« on September 20th, 2011, 12:12 PM »
Nothing? This whole topic was about PHP IDE setups.
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Off-topic / Re: PHP IDE for windows
« on September 20th, 2011, 11:06 AM »
Now I've moved to Windows 8 + WAMPS + git extensions + Visual Studio 2010 with Vs.PHP
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Features / Re: Standardization of UI elements
« on September 19th, 2011, 12:37 PM »
Quote from Arantor on September 19th, 2011, 12:32 PM
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I like that, it's quite straight forward and individual elements make sense. It's much better than what I currently have.
Creating the form content in terms of what should be in it and what validation rules there are is easy enough. Implementing the decorators is a bit more taxing and time consuming, though - at least in Zend_Form. I want something that has most of the power of that but without the tedium involved in setting up decorators.
Decorators can be tricky, yes, but the rest of it is nice. Plus, shouldn't setting up decorators be the job of the theme in most cases anyway? That way, one wouldn't need to set them up again and again.
Quote from Arantor on September 19th, 2011, 12:32 PM
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But what about post-like elements? There are a ton of them, and all of them follow the same layout more or less.
I'm not sure there is that many of them. Where are you thinking of, since every UI I can think of that has 'post like' elements has different content for good reason.
The content's different but the general layout is same. For example, in comment section of AeMe(Or many other mods, even SimpleDesk), the layout is very similar to posts. Search results, reports, PMs, because of the simple fact that most of them have the HTML copied from Display.
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Features / Re: Standardization of UI elements
« on September 19th, 2011, 12:30 PM »
Quote from Arantor on September 19th, 2011, 12:21 PM
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Forms is one of my biggest quirks, I don't know how Zend_Form does it but any way is better than coding those form tables again and again and then validating them.
Zend_Form is a scary if methodical beast. Have a read of http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.form.quickstart.html and see what you think of it.
I like that, it's quite straight forward and individual elements make sense. It's much better than what I currently have.
Quote from Arantor on September 19th, 2011, 12:21 PM
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That was something I put in from top of my head, but, search, report viewing, comment section of many mods etc.
Oh, I see what you mean. Some method by which to create the list of buttons/dropdown, then.
Yeah.
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As far as lists go, there's the generic list subsystem that's used for simpler lists, whereas the message index and board index don't really fit into that category; and pushing them through a generic handler reduces the ease and range of customisation that occurs - remember that most custom themes that do use their own templates invariably hit BoardIndex, MessageIndex and Display in that order. I see that being just as much of an issue in Wedge, and forcing them to be standardised (as opposed to unique but stylistically consistent) would make it worse, not better.
I see what you mean, since the ability to customise is required in BoardIndex and MessageIndex. But what about post-like elements? There are a ton of them, and all of them follow the same layout more or less. There can be 2 UI elements to cover almost all of the content lists(One with a minimalistic view where author is at top, and one with detailed view where author is at side).
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Features / Re: Standardization of UI elements
« on September 19th, 2011, 12:14 PM »
Forms is one of my biggest quirks, I don't know how Zend_Form does it but any way is better than coding those form tables again and again and then validating them.
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As for controls, other than the topic display, where are they even used?
That was something I put in from top of my head, but, search, report viewing, comment section of many mods etc.
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Off-topic / Re: PC hotline
« on September 19th, 2011, 12:03 PM »
Well generally apps tend to use the first core for their work, as well as windows which uses the first core to handle its basic tasks(Including mouse movement). If you have some specific apps that use the first core entire time, you can set its affinity to use the last 2 cores so that it leaves the first cores free for other tasks. Or you can try disabling hyper threading and maintaining 4 cores.
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Features / Standardization of UI elements
« on September 19th, 2011, 12:00 PM »
Pretty sure this has been discussed in various places before, so I thought I'd create a centralized topic.

Currently Wedge/SMF 2.0 has a few UI elements that have been standardized, but they are limited to mostly area menus and lists(Won't count pagination since it is same for everybody), but honestly it has the scope to have more elements. Some from the top of my head are :

1) Different types of lists (BoardIndex and MessageIndex are more or less lists but they have a much different approach), sub-lists etc.
2) Forms - I'd say this is quite important, so as not every other add on has to do it's own form creation and validation.
3) Controls(?) Stuff like quote, hide, on post displays and topic controls etc.

The idea being to unify the different areas of UI, so that some thing doesn't look out of place or doesn't leave out some important part of functionality/security(Form validation, for example). The UI elements can always be extended to allow custom handlers in case some add on wants to add something that is not already present.
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Off-topic / Re: Today's going to be a fun day
« on September 13th, 2011, 10:30 AM »
What did you end up with?
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Off-topic / Re: PHP IDE for windows
« on September 12th, 2011, 08:21 PM »
I'm now using openSuSE and I find KDevelop to a very nice IDE for all kinds of development.
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Off-topic / Re: Today's going to be a fun day
« on September 11th, 2011, 04:51 PM »
Quote from Arantor on September 11th, 2011, 04:32 PM
Yes, he was referring to the "+ mail client" part, I think.
You kind of lost me. What I was saying was : Gmail coupled with a mail client like thunderbird, outlook, apple mail, KMail etc is a very nice combination because gmail has a reliable service and it supports ms exchange.
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Off-topic / Re: Today's going to be a fun day
« on September 11th, 2011, 04:31 PM »
Quote from CJ Jackson on September 11th, 2011, 04:30 PM
Quote from Dragooon on September 11th, 2011, 04:28 PM
Really? Google apps mail + mail client is the best thing ever.
Not everybody agrees, some still prefer to use Outlook over GMail. (Which GMail support).
Isn't outlook a mail client?
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Off-topic / Re: Today's going to be a fun day
« on September 11th, 2011, 04:28 PM »
Really? Google apps mail + mail client is the best thing ever.
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Off-topic / Re: Baidu bloody loves me.
« on September 8th, 2011, 03:44 PM »
Hmm yeah...Baidu keeps stalking me as well. I might as well blow up their asses.