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Now I have a few more moments, there's a reason why the answer is no, and it's not what you think.

You can (quite legitimately) insert a date without a year into the birthday option. And both SMF and Wedge will quite happily accept it, so you can put in your birthday without having to give away your full age, perhaps so you can join in the birthday celebrations and appear on the calendar but keep your age private.

(Internally, they are converted to y-m-d with a year of 4, so leap year processing works too)

It's already in there.

jQuery UI is already implemented for the occasions it is needed and includes that.

Not quite, I hold a qualification in it, but it's only part of the way to becoming a fully qualified counsellor. I'd have to do another couple of years of study to get to that point, but around the time that was happening, things in my life changed and that's why I ultimately gave it up - yup, back in 2002, that was actually my career plan and programming was going to remain hobby. It's funny how life changes.On the contrary it makes it so much harder because you're always chasing the dream.

I'm just going to take this opportunity to quote Robert Brown of Abney Park fame, he said this yesterday and it seems entirely true.I'm somewhere in the latter half of that.

@Nao, would *really* appreciate your insight on these.

Moderated messages get a warning at the top saying something to the effect of 'Hey, this message is moderated!' and some months back I added in a facility to (temporarily) display the reason for moderation underneath it. I've since made that more permanent, but that's not really what I want to talk about. I'm just giving context: we have somewhere to store metadata about a message.

I've attached a picture to show what this looks like. I'd note that there are two visual issues I've noticed that (AFAIK) aren't the result of what I have locally - .postbg.approve isn't exactly much different to straight .postbg (or .postbg2 as per the immediately preceding message) and there's not a gap between messages like there should be. (NB We pretty much inherited this one from what I remember.)

Now, I want to add something else to the mix: notice for a member being warned for a given message. XenForo has this and I think it'd be a useful facility to add.

My concern is where to put it or what it should look like. I've attached an example from XenForo. I want to do something similar but I don't know where to put it in the template exactly. Or what it should look like.

The fact I'd deliberately go back to an inferior system - and share something I'd done from a better system.The fact it's caught is great. What bothers me is that you complained about it and made a big thing out of it (along with the fact I hadn't used 'final' somewhere else) when I made it very clear that it was WIP and subject to change. Combined with the fact that this feature is seriously freaking me out and this just seemed like one step too far, you know?I didn't catch it at dev time, because I had zero way to test it at dev time. In any case, not only did the code not work due to the missing commas (there were multiple), there were bits missing anyway because of other changes I'd made elsewhere, but last night I stitched that bit all back together (and with shiny new code that doesn't have a direct .gif call in the template)

But I'd draw a parallel to the one fixed in r2052 in Class-CSS.php, the main reason I even noticed is because you mentioned it on the forum. Everything you said to me about my missing a comma in the CSS files applies to that typo. Only I thought it simpler not to mention it (but would have fixed it in my next commit quietly)Well, I thought I did. But the tone from your comments did some overly critical, especially in light of the comments I've made recently about not being able to cope with this new feature development.That's part of the problem: over the last few weeks I haven't exactly felt that. Being brutally honest, there is still a lot of respect on both sides for our respective talents, but the feeling I've had is that we seem to have different goals these days.

The stuff you do is great, and don't let me or anyone else try and tell you otherwise, but there is a certain mindset I'm noticing: developing in a sort of bubble.

For example, the repeated points about PURLs being broken - it's never been investigated because from your perspective it works just fine. But I'm only too aware that for a large number of installations it's going to be absolutely unusable - all because it doesn't work properly when in a subdirectory. I don't know the code well enough to explore it, but I just feel like at some point I'll have to.

I want to ensure that the last 3 years haven't been a colossal waste of both our time. And to me, I need to make sure that Wedge has the facilities it needs to compete. It needs to solve all the issues I've seen with SMF, and be the platform it was always destined to be: one of pure fucking awesome. More awesome than rainbow-coloured unicorn poop.

The problem is, I kind of feel that we're not entirely building that. I feel like you're building what makes you happy, which is a good thing, but that it's at a tangent to what Wedge needs sometimes. Diving down the rabbit hole with Wess or JSE, these are great things and make life easier in the long run, but to burn amazing amounts of time on things few people will ever really notice or use seems somewhat sad :(

There is a more important point, though. I actually don't like using Wess, I've realised. Things seem to change a little too often, meaning that what I should have been doing a few weeks ago is not how it should necessarily be done any more, and as I said you could explain it but I suspect it'd go over my head.

When I'm writing CSS stuff, it takes me typically twice as long as just using raw CSS for the simple reason that I write it, and it either doesn't work, or doesn't work as expected. I find it a chore to work with, but that's because I don't use it enough. Trouble is, every time I do use it, I write inefficient code so as I said, I might as well save us both the time and let you write it efficiently in the first place.Add a menu button. It will not have an icon, even if you clear the cache. The only way I could find to do that was to have an add_css() call in the plugin when it was called for the menu_items hook.

Sort of like so:


Though that's probably wrong. But it illustrates a number of the issues in one line.

Firstly: the fact a mod has to do it at all using its *own* CSS, every page where it wants to do this (because there's no way to extend the dynamic function in question)
Secondly: there's nothing to hook on to style-wise. It's not like .m_chess will be able to extend a menu_items class in this context to have the float, size, background-repeat or margin preset for it.
Thirdly: if a menu decides to do *anything* with the main menu that is in any way different to this, the plugin will now be broken because it can't inherit from the parent properly. Weglas demonstrated this by having odd artefacts to the sides of the menu item. And a skin can't anticipate what menu items it's going to have to deal with.

Here's the kicker: all of this could be fudged in some fashion as a contrivance through the plugin manager (either manually or automatically) issuing a clear-CSS-cache and the dynamic function having some kind of hook, but honestly that's not the way I want to go here. A full on menu editor would be much more suitable.That's just it, they *can't*. Not unless a plugin can inject into the CSS *file* itself and force a rebuild, and frankly I'd rather not encourage that. It's completely arse-about-face.

It's why even with all the changes I'd made so far to the calendar, I didn't even bother re-adding a menu icon for it.See, generally, I wouldn't mind. But as is now pretty clear, I'm somewhat fragile at the moment and it's been hard enough to actually admit it, let alone even the possibility of asking someone for help. I guess I'd kind of hoped you'd notice the topics (especially being a big feature and all)I blame my former employer, a subsidiary of Lehman Bros, for that little 'skill'. When you're working through letters and faxes for folks' mortgages, while trying to take shouty phone calls from lawyers demanding to know why you haven't answered their letter yet (and do this for probably 30-40 mortgage cases while taking 60-100 phone calls... PER DAY), you learn to multi-task.

That and the fact that I have no real life to speak of outside of what I do in terms of code. I normally go out twice a week, once to see my mum (and visit my grandmother in the care home) and once to do my weekly shopping. If it weren't for those two things I wouldn't go outside the house. These days I'm frequently up till 5am coding. (It used to be 2am)

This is how I'm able to do it: because I have pro-grade multi-tasking skills and because I have no-one else in my life. This is not something to emulate. It doesn't help that yesterday while out at my mother's, I was reconfiguring their new router and discussing my sister's love life dramas >_< At the same time.I overreacted, and I'm sorry. I overreacted out of small things because I'm not coping with this big thing. It's driving me nuts.I'm not normally uncomfortable, as evidenced by the fact that I released a mod to the SMF community (of my code), which the team reviewed, found one issue and I stood my ground on it (though I did accept that I'd implement it in the future if I got time, just for the sake of completeness)

I'm uncomfortable because it's just seemed like lately if a commit isn't *perfect*, it doesn't just get reviewed, it gets jumped on. The last few features I've done have been that way a bit... even if I make a note in the commit note about something not being finished.You are kidding me, right? I have absolutely no doubt that if you were to spend *any* time on it you would be able to pass. The greatest weakness that I had with it is, incidentally, much the same as yours: things we never use in PHP because we've never had a reason to, DOMDocument, streams, the SOAP stuff, PDO. In my case I had a certain amount of good fortune in that both SimpleXML and file uploads were things I'd worked with in the days beforehand, and they both came up, but I would expect anyone who is actually familiar with PHP to pass most things on it.

In your particular case, I'd suggest if you did want to go for it, you'd need to pick up on Iterators and things like ArrayAccess. Probably 50% of what would be on the exam should be a no-brainer for you. It's only that bit between 50% and the pass grade, and really I do think you're up to it. It's hard, sure, but it wouldn't be worth anything if it wasn't.I always have the last word because I'm arrogant enough to believe I know better. The problem is I really don't half the time. That's one of the advantages to spending time at sm.org is that it has an uncanny habit of keeping my feet on the ground, except when I'm dealing with fecking eejits.I'm still uncomfortable with what feels excessive (when it isn't) when I'm feeling fragile. And some of that fragility is because I don't have the tools to explain why I feel the way I do, or anything to relate it to so that most people here would understand why I'm not coping.[1]

It's also a lot of frustration on my part for feeling like I should just be able to kick this out of the park and not break a sweat from it - I'm frustrated with my own perception of self-weakness.Interesting analogy. And I can see where you're coming from.

From my perspective, it's more like I'd started painting the Mona Lisa and Salai[2] told me that I'd painted it wrong even though I'd muttered it was a word in progress and likely to change again shortly but that I'd done it something to work off for now. And I'm frustrated that Salai didn't hear me but I'm frustrated at myself even more for not having done it perfectly the first time, as well as being frustrated at myself for not having finished it already and being frustrated at myself because I have too much to do and I'm not sure I can cope with it all. Then I get cross at myself when I shout at Salai. And the circle continues.No need to apologise. Just remember it's not my church, just as it's not your church - it's *our* church. Just don't complain if I put in a temporary wooden structure that I can stand on to put the stones in properly :PDefinitely pride. I'm proud of what we have achieved so far. I'm proud of the part I've played. Just that with the way things were going, it was getting to be a chore, not something to be proud of, even if the result would be.

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1.	It's ironic. I actually hold a qualification in counselling. You'd think I'd be better able to handle this sort of thing. But I can't actually go and see a counsellor because I know all the tricks, all the moves so to speak. The shields go up and the waves of small fighter craft just go splat, rather than firing off proton torpedoes.
2.	Yes, I've been playing Assassin's Creed. Deal with it, or I'll send Ezio or maybe Connor round to... have a word. :P

Yay for regression bugs, confirmed.

Another minor enhancement, though this one requires slightly wider changes than what I've done so far in places, so it won't be everywhere at once.

Essentially when you do a search in the admin panel it will now give you the area title that a setting is in, if appropriate. The link still takes you directly to the setting, but this way you can actually find it and have some idea where it is in the scheme of things. This is useful because there are a few settings that have duplicates (legitimately, because they directly have consequences in two separate areas)

I have not shown any in this screenshot but I know of one for certain already and I'm likely to have a few more yet.

Let's say, purely hypothetically of course, that you could put banned users into a group (and replace their primary group with this new group while banned)

Let's say, also purely hypothetically that you want to add some more formatting options to that group.

All purely hypothetical of course. Except for the attached which is not a mockup but actual proof of implementation. :niark:


(As in, you can create a Banned group, and use this to format it so you don't need 'Slashout Banned Members' if you want to do that.)

Actually, it's two mods on the list that aren't needed any more. Still hundreds to go though.[1]

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Yes, I have a list of every SMF mod, complete with the state of whether Wedge has it built in, whether Wedge should get a similar mod (or whether it's already been made), or not. There are still 297 'Yes', 526 'Maybe', 103 'to be core', 181 'already core'. Though I add my own todo as 'to be core' so it's not entirely accurate.