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The Pub / Re: Wedge & SEO
« on March 31st, 2011, 10:49 PM »
Not from us, to be honest. We're not going to spend too much time rewriting it when we're not planning on using it like that. It does not bring anything useful other than serious extra load, and shorter looking URLs.

Consider: YouTube doesn't have SEO URLs and it hasn't lost out in traffic or hits ;)
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The Pub / Re: Wedge & SEO
« on March 31st, 2011, 10:33 PM »
No, we will NOT do that. I am not adding possibly multiple database queries just to load the page.
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on March 31st, 2011, 10:23 PM »
No, it doesn't mean that at all, Chris. I really don't want to argue with you, I have taken the action I deem appropriate for the situation.
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The Pub / Re: Wedge & SEO
« on March 31st, 2011, 10:21 PM »
So, you can see it's added here, and similar implemented in Wedge. It's a core feature, not enabled by default. And it was done to make the URLs nice, just that I won't use it myself.
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The Pub / Re: Wedge & SEO
« on March 31st, 2011, 10:02 PM »
-sigh- Pretty URLs IS supported but NOT for SEO purposes. It does not add significant ranking benefit. It is supported solely because it is nice.
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Off-topic / Re: Profile Visitors
« on March 31st, 2011, 09:42 PM »
But it's not active...
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on March 31st, 2011, 09:40 PM »
No, I removed it, followed by my message in reply. That way they can't accuse me of refusing to comply with a request and they can't accuse me of being uncooperative, i.e. the moral ground is mine.
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on March 31st, 2011, 08:23 PM »
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+1, maybe JBlaze (he's still on the team) can quote the related topice / rule?
Or Runic if I ask him now that he's back on the team...
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We could release some small mods and/or themes with the wedge-link in the footer
That's genius. Actually genius. And there's no reason why they can't approve those, given that links to paid services are available through them...
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AFAIK there is no rule about competitor links in mods / themes but they'll probably never approve these.
There isn't on the official guidelines, no.
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Other software / [Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« on March 31st, 2011, 07:28 PM »
Such things aren't retroactive though. Any release that existed with a BSD licence can still be used for that purpose.
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Plugins / Re: Plugin hooks
« on March 31st, 2011, 07:28 PM »
Mods can alter the content that's going *into* the template with out editing the hook itself. But that's only any good provided that you're providing it more of the same, or internally reformatting it for whatever reason.

If you need to extend the template in any way, i.e. do something other than for which it was designed in any way that can't be done through the exact markup provided, you either have to design the template to feed more from the source or allow it to be modified.

The former example, to 'feed more from the source', I'm thinking you'd make more use of stuff like GenericList for it; in order to make a given table more dynamic in terms of columns (new rows is easy), you'd need to move everything out of hardcoding the table structure.

The latter example is where you want to do inline some new content into the template.
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on March 31st, 2011, 07:25 PM »
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Anyway, whether Pete gets banned or not or whatever -- if everyone here starts putting a link to Wedge in their signature, what will they do? Mass bans, like in January?
It's entirely possible, but unlikely.
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Other software / [Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« on March 31st, 2011, 07:22 PM »
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And respectfully put, the vote was against to allow the inclusion of DP inside of any other software.
And respectfully put, you can't actually do that without re-licensing the software, unless you're unclear about the meaning of the New BSD licence.
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The Pub / Re: Wedge & SEO
« on March 31st, 2011, 07:21 PM »
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Mobile phones with full browsing support and Touch Screens change things really.
Yes, I agree. I use a touch screen device daily for this reason.
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H1, H2, H3 isn't really needed if your doing HTML 5 <header>/<section>. That's even better.
If you're really serious about it, why aren't you asking us about things like microdata?
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I'll argue the image height & width though. Without it, too much page jumping going on. Especially at slower speeds, or those with latency/server issues. Every little bit helps...
Except that search engines do not hit the images as much, and since speed is one factor in Google's ranking, and having a higher content:markup ratio has to help in that too...
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Alt attributes are still needed, even though they are not a requirement for HTML 5 Doctype.
Even when the specification explicitly says they should be empty for when they are used in non informational contexts, e.g. bullet point images?
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Again, mobile phones, ipads, some netbooks, will not cache or even load most images over 25K.
And? That's relevant how to this part of the discussion? I'm aware of that limitation, but from a purely 'search engine optimisation' point of view it doesn't make so much difference. SEO by definition is making the content more accessible to machine readers, often at the expense of real users.
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I completely disagree with about 80% of what was said there.
So you're telling me that you can magically make a forum *measurably* better in search engine rankings without dictating the content to users?

See, to be honest, that's just "I disagree but don't have anything to back up arguing why I disagree"...
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Other software / Re: So, I've been asked...
« on March 31st, 2011, 06:21 PM »
Yup, SiNaN's.
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The Pub / Re: Wedge & SEO
« on March 31st, 2011, 06:04 PM »
We're not overly interested in IE6 compatibility, and given suitable CSS declarations it should work tolerably well anyway...