Wedge

This is basically what Debian/Ubuntu and to a much lesser degree, Red Hat/CentOS and co do; you have a central repository of packages, you can add in new package repositories, but intra-package dependencies are a PITA, and just for fun, if you step outside the package repos, you get into a world of hell of maintenance, far more so than admins currently have on SMF.

I dislike the idea of forcing a centralised system unless 1) the centralised system is designed to be the *only* place to get packages (a la Apple's App Store) and 2) it allows paid packages and provides appropriate measures for modders in that regard.

And there's a world of hurt in there if not managed properly regarding "openness".

Welcome everyone :)

I've had enough of people who think that throwing their weight around, that being shitty and arrogant and insulting is going to get them anywhere.

I needed a nice bit of time out from here lest I said something REALLY stupid, but I'm glad I did - I skimmed this topic and saw the increasing levels of stupidity, arrogance and idiocy.

I made absolutely no assumptions about you. You want to keep acting like an idiot, go right ahead, because you've completely missed the point of everything I had to say, and I have no time to cater to people who won't look past their own nose.

OK, so let me spell it out for you, and I'll be sure to use small words so you can understand me.

We started Wedge because we had a vision, of what we wanted to see. Everything that's happened since you came here began to taint that vision.

We weren't building Wedge for you. We were building it for us, plain and simple, it just so happened that what we wanted mostly coincided with what everyone else wanted.

If you thought otherwise, I'm sorry you didn't bother to read what was put in front of you.Why do you think I haven't made a commit to Wedge in the last month, because I have other responsibilities as well...

Though, I do have some money from an inheritance that allows me to spend some time doing what I love rather than doing what I need to.No-one was asking you to. You came to a place that was quite clearly a benevolent dictatorship and expected to be treated like an equal dictator. Sorry.And you were, you were the one who proceeded to act unpleasantly by coming into our house and telling us how we should run it.

I have better things to do than argue with you, I try to see the good in people, and when you first turned up on sm.org, with grand ideas, I was impressed. I thought you were quietly mad, because you had bigger ideas than anyone else I'd seen with SMF attempt, and I knew SMF's limitations would eventually have to be overcome, but I quietly had a lot of respect for the balls you had. The more you posted on sm.org, and later here, the more I realised that your ego is carrying you, that you really don't have the skills to carry out your grand plan.

I am well aware of my limitations as a programmer. Your ego blinds you from yours.


The bottom line: I will not be involved in a project with you, plain and simple. You have no respect for the community you're part of, that's obvious, as it's taken too much time to have to deal with you.

Have fun.

Calendar is the canonical example.

I think we covered that actually, because some areas in SMF already present their options in that fashion (in addition to the permissions area itself)

-sigh-

OK, so let's back up a bit to what's already been implemented, is already available and proven to work.

You create a profile. This is a set of permissions that applies in a board. You just set which boards you want to use this. Job done. This is even the case in SimpleDesk though it's an order of magnitude bigger.

No need for making a whole new level of permissions, complexity and confusion for the sake of saving time in the minority of cases. Not everyone is building huge forums that have tens of categories and dozens of boards.How can it possibly be more efficient if it has to look in 3 places (outside boards, inside cats, inside boards) for permissions instead of 2 (outside boards, inside boards)?


As for not being an attack on intelligence, maybe not, but I'd think that maybe I'd have learnt something in 5 years as a forum admin, that I used when building my own systems, that I'd be using here. I'd also assume that I wouldn't retry things I've already tried hoping for a different result... you've made the suggestion, which is awesome, except that experience trumps ideas in this case.