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Other software / Re: SMF 2.0 final THIS MONTH?
« on May 31st, 2011, 01:50 AM »It does not mean that Wedge will be released immediately after. It haven't got to Alpha state yet.
At least, we will be once there's been a final sweep of code to ensure that what we have meets the changed terms of their licence (any code that was in prior to final that hasn't been rewritten needs to be rewritten)
And I suspect it means I can get shot of my account, too.
I hardly believe that wedge will take more than 1 month to get the first beta...
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Other software / Re: SMF 2.0 final THIS MONTH?
« on May 31st, 2011, 12:54 AM »
Considering there's still a good number in the tracker, and honestly 2.0 final doesn't fix that much... (WYSIWYG is still pretty flaky), I've warned them for months that there's going to be a lot of unhappy people come 2.0 final, but would they listen...?
Go look at any debate on the internet about Duke Nukem Forever and the number of comments about it being 'perfect' after this long in limbo. The exact same argument will be levelled at SMF, except they have far less of a leg to stand on in reality.
Go look at any debate on the internet about Duke Nukem Forever and the number of comments about it being 'perfect' after this long in limbo. The exact same argument will be levelled at SMF, except they have far less of a leg to stand on in reality.
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Other software / Re: avatar bug
« on May 30th, 2011, 11:13 PM »
Oh goody, another they will defer for 2.0.
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Other software / Re: SMF 2.0 final THIS MONTH?
« on May 30th, 2011, 06:46 PM »
They're using what's in SVN. Which is still missing almost 2 dozen issues to be resolved in the tracker.
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Other software / Re: SMF 2.0 final THIS MONTH?
« on May 30th, 2011, 06:16 PM »Seems they are updating the site as I post :whistle:
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Off-topic / Re: Doctor Who
« on May 30th, 2011, 06:15 PM »She is, especially given that she's explicitly cited as being in Stormcage in that era.Quote According to Wikipedia, a lot... K9, Jack Harkness, and River Song had some adventures there (so I suppose we can assume she's from that era.)
I doubt we'll see K9 again, because K9 Mk III or IV is in Bannerman Road in the early 21st Century.
Jack... there may be a cross-over but I doubt it. If we see Jack, it'll almost certainly be before his original adventures with Nine, because of continuity with the new Torchwood season that's coming up in terms of its own continuity.
We may see Liz 10 again, out of interest, because her and River met when stealing a Van Gogh from the Royal Collection - which happened after River escaped from Stormcage, and it's the painting depicting the TARDIS exploding.
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Off-topic / Re: Doctor Who
« on May 30th, 2011, 11:43 AM »(Rory, according to Idris.)
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Other software / Re: SMF 2.0 final THIS MONTH?
« on May 30th, 2011, 11:43 AM »
I can elaborate on that a bit actually.
RC1 wasn't really ready to be an RC, it didn't even have Curve in it. The only reason it wasn't 2.0 beta 5 was because they promised the next version would be RC.
RC2 was the first real RC and that had some major flaws in it too. I don't remember how many people were still considering that as a beta too.
RC3 was the first time that the software could genuinely be called an RC, but even that far back some of the more minor bugs were starting to be deferred rather than fixed.
RC1 wasn't really ready to be an RC, it didn't even have Curve in it. The only reason it wasn't 2.0 beta 5 was because they promised the next version would be RC.
RC2 was the first real RC and that had some major flaws in it too. I don't remember how many people were still considering that as a beta too.
RC3 was the first time that the software could genuinely be called an RC, but even that far back some of the more minor bugs were starting to be deferred rather than fixed.
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Off-topic / Re: Doctor Who
« on May 30th, 2011, 12:26 AM »
Yes, it was very cleverly done at the end there.
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You didn't think you were going to get away that lightly, did you? :P
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I have heard an interesting rumour about E13, actually, and who will be in it. It is pure speculation at this time, at least that the site mentioning said rumour has been known to be wrong, about a great many things. ONLY READ IF YOU WANT TO BE SPOILED!!
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Tell you what, though, I had a distinct feeling of the two parter with the Silurians from S5, of the whole 'we're at war' and 'we can make a peace' motif.
You didn't think you were going to get away that lightly, did you? :P
So, from the prequel to E7, we revisit an acquaintance, which means when we're going is definitely the 51st Century. Guess who lives then!
I have heard an interesting rumour about E13, actually, and who will be in it. It is pure speculation at this time, at least that the site mentioning said rumour has been known to be wrong, about a great many things. ONLY READ IF YOU WANT TO BE SPOILED!!
IMDB lists the Ten, Eleven and Five all in it at the same time. Make of that what you will - but remember that Moffat has worked with Five, in the Time Crash special when he was alongside Ten.
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Other software / Re: SMF 2.0 final THIS MONTH?
« on May 30th, 2011, 12:07 AM »
The outstanding 20 or so are minor.
The ones already pushed back, some of which are YEARS old, mostly minor too. My beef with what they're doing is less about what they decide to fix and what they decide to defer (it IS about that, but not so much).
My main beef is how we had all this BS for months about how 2.0 final was going to be bug free, with no issues left in the tracker. Sure, if you just sweep them under the carpet!
If they were prepared to man up and admit that there are issues outstanding that they're going to fix and not this 'final/bug free' BS, I'd give them some lee-way, especially since none of the deferred bugs are going to be fixed in 2.0.1 as and when it emerges, since 2.0.1 will be security or major-earth-shattering issues.
Considering that some of the bugs are minor and have documented fixes that don't break anything and certainly don't cause any regression errors (there's FUD before you start!), it's fairly poor to just defer them when you could fix them and retain some of the element of integrity about what you do.
Personally, I just think it looks bad, especially given how long it's been in RC status.
The ones already pushed back, some of which are YEARS old, mostly minor too. My beef with what they're doing is less about what they decide to fix and what they decide to defer (it IS about that, but not so much).
My main beef is how we had all this BS for months about how 2.0 final was going to be bug free, with no issues left in the tracker. Sure, if you just sweep them under the carpet!
If they were prepared to man up and admit that there are issues outstanding that they're going to fix and not this 'final/bug free' BS, I'd give them some lee-way, especially since none of the deferred bugs are going to be fixed in 2.0.1 as and when it emerges, since 2.0.1 will be security or major-earth-shattering issues.
Considering that some of the bugs are minor and have documented fixes that don't break anything and certainly don't cause any regression errors (there's FUD before you start!), it's fairly poor to just defer them when you could fix them and retain some of the element of integrity about what you do.
Personally, I just think it looks bad, especially given how long it's been in RC status.
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Features: Miscellaneous / Re: Improvements to Hooks
« on May 30th, 2011, 12:04 AM »
Two things.
Firstly, both SMF and Wedge have limitations as far as the hooks go. Wedge does it better, much better, but there's still a limitation as to where files can be.
Secondly, some people do crazy shit like moving their Sources dir out of the web tree, so you kind of need to put it in there - but I guess we could do it as having a folder for add-ons where each add-on gets its own folder therein?
Firstly, both SMF and Wedge have limitations as far as the hooks go. Wedge does it better, much better, but there's still a limitation as to where files can be.
Secondly, some people do crazy shit like moving their Sources dir out of the web tree, so you kind of need to put it in there - but I guess we could do it as having a folder for add-ons where each add-on gets its own folder therein?
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Features / Re: Share user database for 2 (or more) different forums.
« on May 30th, 2011, 12:02 AM »* Arantor casts an evil glare across the room.
With blogs, I get the idea behind having proper multi-user support. For a forum, especially one that can handle a vast number of boards and provide them as blogs, not so much.
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Other software / Re: SMF 2.0 final THIS MONTH?
« on May 29th, 2011, 09:41 PM »
Not really, the 2 I see that you don't are marked as private in the tracker.
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Features / Re: Share user database for 2 (or more) different forums.
« on May 29th, 2011, 09:28 PM »
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's "a lot of people". A vocal minority at best, trying to use a system seriously not designed for their needs.
We will be altering the DB and we will try to keep this in mind but inevitably it is not something we need to implement ourselves, it is not something I particularly want to implement in the core, but we will try to be mindful of it. More than that I will not offer at this time, it's hard enough with everything that we are doing without doing this as well.
We will be altering the DB and we will try to keep this in mind but inevitably it is not something we need to implement ourselves, it is not something I particularly want to implement in the core, but we will try to be mindful of it. More than that I will not offer at this time, it's hard enough with everything that we are doing without doing this as well.