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Messages - Arantor
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Features: Posts & Topics / Re: Merge Double Posts
« on August 11th, 2011, 12:17 PM »
Interesting approach.
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- you can easily split posts into new topics, even after they're been pseudo-merged with others...
You could do that with existing merged posts if the merge code has been retained.
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- you can answer a sub-post and its parent ID will be easily found, i.e. you can track a conversation's parents more easily.
True, though it would make the actual process of handling threaded replies a lot more complex overall.
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- doesn't fix database space
The difference on InnoDB isn't particularly significant.
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- can't easily determine if you want to pseudo-merge your posts, it's all automatic. Maybe we could have a 'merge' field in the message table though.
Could do that, yes. I think you'd populate it automatically in the same cases that it'd be done now.
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- if someone posts 15 messages in a row, the entire page will be filled by their pseudo-unique post, and then the next one will be on the following page.
Yeah, that to me is quite a big con; personally if posts are merged, I'd expect them to be treated as atomic units, i.e. as a single post.
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Off-topic / Re: To fork or not to fork - in other words: Hi :)
« on August 11th, 2011, 12:05 PM »
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@Pete> Oh, please share the juice about other forks
I'd rather know for certain that it is a genuine fork before I say anything about it; if it turns out that I've been misinformed, then I've just been misinformed rather than repeating misinformation.
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When it comes to smileys, the cache is automatically rebuilt when changes are made to the smileys (order, additions, ...)
I meant message icons, not just smileys; both are configurable.
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Off-topic / Re: To fork or not to fork - in other words: Hi :)
« on August 11th, 2011, 10:39 AM »
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Topic icons: usually there's only the default icon...
What happens if users add them themselves? (It's in the admin panel, even if it is convoluted.)
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Features / Re: Blogging features
« on August 11th, 2011, 10:37 AM »
It's automated when a second site sends a message to the first - the request is made without referer AFAIK...
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Features / Re: Blogging features
« on August 11th, 2011, 09:20 AM »
XML-RPC makes no difference whether or not you're using a tablet. What it does do is make remote bridges easier, for example WP has multiple non-web-based clients that all use the XML-RPC interfaces to make posts. Having XML-RPC would make it easier for external tools to prod Wedge into doing things, since it's designed for external tool usage.

Trackbacks are just one use of XML-RPC and if a WP site links to a Wedge one, WP would use an XML-RPC call to post said trackback.
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Off-topic / Re: An old Friend
« on August 11th, 2011, 09:14 AM »
That email address looks familiar, but alas I cannot put a name to it... Maybe after breakfast I'll remember...
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Features / Re: These two bytes may not matter to you...
« on August 10th, 2011, 10:28 PM »
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Shouldn't we change these to unsigned...? Or whatever?
If we can guarantee we never need an unsigned value, we can use that. However int is problematic because unsigned int is an unsigned 32 bit value which runs over the limit of PHP at times (and can be silently switched for a float)

Tinyint, smallint and mediumint can all be safely made unsigned if the values never go negative.
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OTOH, maybe files shouldn't get a @version at all, in these conditions
It can be useful but if you're not offering patches it's almost not worth the effort. More thought needed.
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Off-topic / Re: To fork or not to fork - in other words: Hi :)
« on August 10th, 2011, 09:19 PM »
I have heard a rumour of a third fork, but I have yet to see anything that validates the rumour, even though I went to the site in question to see if I could find mention of it.

Not going to comment on it, though, don't want to raise more hackles, so to speak.
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Off-topic / Re: To fork or not to fork - in other words: Hi :)
« on August 10th, 2011, 06:57 PM »
Hi there and welcome :)
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Features / Re: Core/Not Core
« on August 9th, 2011, 09:49 PM »
Yup. And we have removed some features, though generally they've been minor ones.
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Off-topic / Re: Doctor Who
« on August 9th, 2011, 10:09 AM »
In other news, http://www.crispian.net/DoctorWho/DrWhoTubeMap.html
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Features / Re: Core/Not Core
« on August 8th, 2011, 07:19 PM »
That's something I've noticed during overhaul of the admin panel, that other than post moderation and the calendar, none of the "core features" really seem to me to make much difference in terms of performance (profile fields, for example generates no extra overhead at all whether it's enabled or not, it's only when you start creating new fields that it becomes important)

I consider Word bloated because it has an awful lot that most people won't use, IMO; the usual claim is everyone uses only 10% and that everyone uses a different 10% but my experience is that the 10% claims aren't of all the features - most people use a very very limited subset so that you could prune 80% of the features and probably 95% won't notice.

I don't think we're looking like we're going to be bloated in the core, though, because I think what we're doing suits a suitably large percentage of sites.
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Features / Re: New revs
« on August 8th, 2011, 10:52 AM »
Revision: 915
Author: arantor
Date: 09:48:56, 08 August 2011
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! Made the warning system permanently on, seeing how we're going to be making more use of it. Most of this is simply removing two sets of is-enabled checks. (install.sql, Admin.php, Display.php, ManagePermissions.php, ModerationCenter.php, PersonalMessage.php, Profile-Actions.php, Profile-View.php, Profile.php, ScheduledTasks.php, ManageSettings.language.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Display.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManagePermissions.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageSettings.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ModerationCenter.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/PersonalMessage.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile-Actions.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile-View.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ScheduledTasks.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.french.php
Modified : /trunk/other/install.sql

Posted: August 8th, 2011, 10:49 AM

Revision: 916
Author: arantor
Date: 09:52:00, 08 August 2011
Message:
! Oops, forgot to remove the warning_enabled default setting from the installer. (install.sql)
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Modified : /trunk/other/install.sql
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Features / Re: New revs
« on August 8th, 2011, 10:34 AM »
Revision: 914
Author: arantor
Date: 09:33:24, 08 August 2011
Message:
! Remove the 'make emails visible' option, it's just not needed to present emails as-is for all members (even just to other members) as an option. (All files mentioned here are related to this change, namely cleaning out the old 'yes' branch)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Feed.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageSettings.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Security.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/SendTopic.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Subs-Auth.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/Display.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/ManageMembergroups.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/PersonalMessage.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/Profile.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Help.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Help.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.french.php
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Other software / Re: To upgrade or not to upgrade...
« on August 7th, 2011, 06:23 PM »
Wedge is expressly UTF-8 only, because it solves so many problems around internationalisation. AFAIK the importer will already deal with conversion to UTF-8 for you (and if it doesn't yet, it will in time)