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Features / Re: Miscellaneous/WIP screenshots
« on May 23rd, 2013, 04:08 PM »
Oh, yeah, that reminds me. So I set up the facility internally that you could make users re-agree the reg agreement and it would limit them accessing the site. I finally got around to UI for it, though I'm not entirely happy with it.
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Features / Re: New revs
« on May 23rd, 2013, 04:11 AM »
(4 modified, 6KB)
Revision: 2130
Author: arantor
Date: 23 May 2013 03:11:25
Message:
! Database error during newsletter sending. (ManageNews.php)
! Improved UI for sending newsletters, including removing ridiculous SMF logic of hiding post count groups if post count permissions are disabled. (ManageNews.php, ManageNews.template.php, mana.css, Admin language file)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageNews.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/ManageNews.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/skins/mana.css
Revision: 2130
Author: arantor
Date: 23 May 2013 03:11:25
Message:
! Database error during newsletter sending. (ManageNews.php)
! Improved UI for sending newsletters, including removing ridiculous SMF logic of hiding post count groups if post count permissions are disabled. (ManageNews.php, ManageNews.template.php, mana.css, Admin language file)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageNews.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/ManageNews.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/skins/mana.css
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Features / Re: Miscellaneous/WIP screenshots
« on May 23rd, 2013, 03:02 AM »
Another screenshot.
So earlier today I learned that, in fact, newsletters can actually do sending-to-post-count-groups but you have to turn on an unrelated option to make it happen.
So I thought, let's fix up the UI a little, make it adhere to group colouring and stuff like that (since while links to profiles are automatically coloured, instances of group names aren't by magic)... and I thought I'd improve it a little.
The original UI tells you the groups and the number of people in them. I thought this might help. As ever it's a WIP so the extra title that you'd expect on the left will appear but has not done so yet.
So earlier today I learned that, in fact, newsletters can actually do sending-to-post-count-groups but you have to turn on an unrelated option to make it happen.
So I thought, let's fix up the UI a little, make it adhere to group colouring and stuff like that (since while links to profiles are automatically coloured, instances of group names aren't by magic)... and I thought I'd improve it a little.
The original UI tells you the groups and the number of people in them. I thought this might help. As ever it's a WIP so the extra title that you'd expect on the left will appear but has not done so yet.
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Archived fixes / Re: Database Error while adding additional text to my Signature
« on May 23rd, 2013, 12:03 AM »
Um... this site is still using r2127 as per the footer...
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Off-topic / Re: Automagically De-Nesting Quotes
« on May 22nd, 2013, 11:09 PM »
It's not a bandwidth saving particularly. From a preference point of view it's about just only having as much content as you really need to be able to make your point. Bandwidth and DB space savings are a nice by-product if done at save time.
Nested quotes at parse time... yes and no. The current nesting hierarchy is maintained, so we know what tags we are inside and what is still open. However... that's not passed to the tag itself for the validate_func purpose. It is validated against disallow_children and disallow_parent to prevent a tag being inside something it shouldn't be, but that's all. The notion of passing the current parse tree into a tag to validate itself (e.g. allowing a tag to generate different markup if it is inside another) is a bit exotic and will definitely carry a performance penalty passing that in and out of the validate_funcs. Mind you, we could always retain it in a global variable and let a tag pull that in but I'd sort of rather not do that if I can help it.
Nested quotes at parse time... yes and no. The current nesting hierarchy is maintained, so we know what tags we are inside and what is still open. However... that's not passed to the tag itself for the validate_func purpose. It is validated against disallow_children and disallow_parent to prevent a tag being inside something it shouldn't be, but that's all. The notion of passing the current parse tree into a tag to validate itself (e.g. allowing a tag to generate different markup if it is inside another) is a bit exotic and will definitely carry a performance penalty passing that in and out of the validate_funcs. Mind you, we could always retain it in a global variable and let a tag pull that in but I'd sort of rather not do that if I can help it.
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Off-topic / Re: Automagically De-Nesting Quotes
« on May 22nd, 2013, 10:40 PM »
Hmm, I don't know whether it would be quicker to just hide it in CSS or to strip it on view before parsing (thus saving some tags)
I also don't know how you'd do it in CSS if it's a user preference because that means it can't really be in the CSS file at all... unless we add a class at parse time to it (which is currently not supported and would make parsing undoubtedly slower)
I also don't know how you'd do it in CSS if it's a user preference because that means it can't really be in the CSS file at all... unless we add a class at parse time to it (which is currently not supported and would make parsing undoubtedly slower)
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Off-topic / Re: Automagically De-Nesting Quotes
« on May 22nd, 2013, 02:11 PM »
The only problem with making it a user preference is that you have to do that at parse time, not at fetch-quote time.
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Archived fixes / Re: Database Error while adding additional text to my Signature
« on May 22nd, 2013, 04:07 AM »
This should be resolved in r2129, but I haven't been able to test it thoroughly.
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Features / Re: New revs
« on May 22nd, 2013, 04:06 AM »
(2 files, 3KB)
Revision: 2129
Author: arantor
Date: 22 May 2013 03:06:15
Message:
! Moderation centre function needed to be updated to tie in with index.php changes. (ModerationCenter.php)
! Fixing the privacy checking code on custom fields. (Profile-Modify.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ModerationCenter.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile-Modify.php
Revision: 2129
Author: arantor
Date: 22 May 2013 03:06:15
Message:
! Moderation centre function needed to be updated to tie in with index.php changes. (ModerationCenter.php)
! Fixing the privacy checking code on custom fields. (Profile-Modify.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ModerationCenter.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile-Modify.php
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Features / Re: Miscellaneous/WIP screenshots
« on May 22nd, 2013, 04:00 AM »
I can, actually: install forum, add any language that isn't English, set forum to that language, disable user selection.
You cannot remove English, and if you want a language that isn't English in the forum, that's how it must be done. Not every forum wants every language.
The other thing is that I'm thinking that we might provide all languages with an installation and let users pick what they want.
You cannot remove English, and if you want a language that isn't English in the forum, that's how it must be done. Not every forum wants every language.
The other thing is that I'm thinking that we might provide all languages with an installation and let users pick what they want.
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Features / Re: Miscellaneous/WIP screenshots
« on May 22nd, 2013, 03:45 AM »
In a real sense, yes, they would be but right now the UI doesn't prevent it - though, if the 'user selectable support' option is unticked, the available list is enforced to be the default language (so that one is enforced to be set)
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Off-topic / Re: Automagically De-Nesting Quotes
« on May 22nd, 2013, 02:33 AM »Yep. It's mainly a matter of habit. It's a bad habit that I found couldn't be broken. I even wrote sticky posts about it. I would sayQuote from Arantor on May 22nd, 2013, 01:33 AM Perhaps if it were enabled by default on a fresh installation... hmm. Needs more thought.
"Do not quote more text than is needed to make your point. All the points everyone has made are in the thread. That's what the thread is there for - to hold all the points. A quote should be short and simply to jog the memory and help people reading to understand what you are addressing, blah, blah, blah ..."
Something like that. Mainly new members would not understand how the quote button should be handled correctly. They simply thought it was there to respond to any member in the thread. But as I would scold them - no, it's only to be used to attach a short amount of specific material that you want to rebut. You MUST edit out all unneeded material down before posting! Otherwise, simply do this -
Member xyz, I have this to say about your last point ...
I am glad our admin was smart enough to never activate nested quotes. I hate them.
I have visited forums with nested quotes where the quote sometimes ran 20 levels deep and the largest answer was about 4 words long. Nuts, plain nuts.
On our forum there are also people that misuse the quote button as the answer button. You can keep telling them they shouldn't. but they are used to it from other places.
I have the most success by sending those people a PM telling them that in a normal (spoken) conversation they wouldn't even think about repeating everything the other people say before answering. That really makes them think and often they start using quote for the purpose it's meant.
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Archived fixes / Re: Database Error while adding additional text to my Signature
« on May 22nd, 2013, 02:18 AM »
OK, this one's my bad. Oddly enough I was looking at the very screen that that query references only earlier today and thinking 'do I need to fix that'... and now I know I do.
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Off-topic / Re: Automagically De-Nesting Quotes
« on May 22nd, 2013, 01:33 AM »
Perhaps if it were enabled by default on a fresh installation... hmm. Needs more thought.
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Off-topic / Re: Automagically De-Nesting Quotes
« on May 22nd, 2013, 01:20 AM »
Removing the other quotes is sort of the point. You really don't need all the extra quotes and as far as readability goes, it seems to me to promote wall-of-text syndrome by making wall-of-quotes. The head of the quote is still a link back to the previous post so it's not like you can't easily get the original context.