Wedge

Ask your host.Install it yourself. If you have FTP access plus the DB name, password and so on, you can install it yourself. See http://www.phpmyadmin.net/documentation/Documentation.html#setup

It's not that it's horrible to implement, because it isn't. It's horrible because it's flawed, it undermines everything about encouraging people to participate. It's the stick as compared to the carrot, and anyone who joins and posts because of the stick is not likely to either hang around or be a good contributor while they're there.

Which means everyone who isn't interested in setting up their own repository has to manually specify Wedge's plugin server, or would it just fall back on that anyway? (In which case there is no benefit to us directly in setting it up like that.)

And if the plugin server moves in that time, the plugins all have to be updated. (True, there's still a problem, but having it not part of the plugin mitigates it to a degree)

I didn't know it had been changed, so was asking the question on the basis that it probably hadn't.Hmm. See, I know WordPress does this and if they can cope with it, I see no reason why we can't! Though perhaps I should look more into *how* they do it rather than just blithely say that if they can do it, so can we. Interestingly here, third party repos just aren't the problem, the home repo is.

There is an alternative process that I like the idea of even less, but would solve some of the computational/effort side of things and generate others.

Now, MyBB has a facility whereby users can mark 'I have this installed'. Imagine we did something similar, but that we also asked users to tell us the site(s) they're running Wedge on, and that for mods they mark as 'I have this installed', it sends an HTTP POST notification to those forums to advise them that there are new plugins (and if we get 2+ failures to send, we stop sending notifications to those users' forums). That way, if they don't want to explicitly say what plugins they're using (it need not be public knowledge, of course), they can subscribe to regular thread updates as normal, but if they sign in and indicate they're using x, y and z, when any of those is updated, we tell them. Heck, we could even batch it to a run once a day or so.

It's just an idea. I'm sure it needs refinement.

You're in the minority; as per the chart, not everyone is getting updates even if there is no reason why the phone shouldn't. And even then, vendor crapware sort of limits that too, so you're definitely in the minority.

End of the day, different people use different devices, for different reasons. I'm quite happy using iOS on my device.

The 3GS might not get Siri but it does get all the other things like security updates in iOS 5, as far as I know.

I regularly plug pizza in, I'm good :)

Yes... the package id is set when first uploaded and you have to get the Customisation Team to change it, if you try and upload a mod with the wrong package id in it, it'll complain bitterly at you.