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4546
Features / Re: New revs
« on March 5th, 2012, 09:48 AM »
(8 modified, 3KB)
Revision: 1431
Author: arantor
Date: 05 March 2012 08:47:27
Message:
! Removed 'Security Settings' as it was a touch misleading, and moved its settings into two new pages: Forum - Anti-Spam and Members - Warnings, which allows for customisation and expansions going forward (since Warnings will become Warnings & Bans and remove the current Ban List entry). Also moved Smileys and Message Icons along its line/menu, giving it less prominence than it had before. (all files)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageSettings.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Help.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Help.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.french.php
Revision: 1431
Author: arantor
Date: 05 March 2012 08:47:27
Message:
! Removed 'Security Settings' as it was a touch misleading, and moved its settings into two new pages: Forum - Anti-Spam and Members - Warnings, which allows for customisation and expansions going forward (since Warnings will become Warnings & Bans and remove the current Ban List entry). Also moved Smileys and Message Icons along its line/menu, giving it less prominence than it had before. (all files)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageSettings.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Help.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Help.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.french.php
4547
Features / Re: Poll mode
« on March 5th, 2012, 09:12 AM »
I'm not sure of the historical basis for it, but I guess at some point people asked for it to be disabled and it got included, but that must have been a long time ago, it's certainly in 1.1, probably in 1.0 and I suspect it may even be in YaBBSE, though I've not actually used it.
4548
Features / Re: Home button
« on March 5th, 2012, 02:57 AM »
*nods* Indeed not, especially as I'm planning to make the language editor more prominent than it currently is (though I have other matters to solve as far as that goes)
4549
Features / Re: Some admin menu changes
« on March 5th, 2012, 02:57 AM »
Interesting idea. I'd want to be very careful about it because it could quickly get irritating, but the idea's pretty sound, I think. The way this is currently implemented is that once you hit the 'don't show me again' button, it's spirited away and won't come back without a DB edit.
The thing I'd want to avoid in particular is having something date related, e.g. 6 months since last change of x, and admins electing to skip it a few times, until they get to the point where they either subconsciously ignore it, or ask how to make it go away.
I would also note that my original question to Nao hasn't been answered - namely what key things you'd put in there for 'newcomers', but I'm certainly not averse to growing this into a bigger feature, perhaps even as far as a wizard for helping you find things if you're a newcomer?
The thing I'd want to avoid in particular is having something date related, e.g. 6 months since last change of x, and admins electing to skip it a few times, until they get to the point where they either subconsciously ignore it, or ask how to make it go away.
I would also note that my original question to Nao hasn't been answered - namely what key things you'd put in there for 'newcomers', but I'm certainly not averse to growing this into a bigger feature, perhaps even as far as a wizard for helping you find things if you're a newcomer?
4550
Features / Re: Home button
« on March 5th, 2012, 02:41 AM »
Well, yeah, it would always be changeable in the language files, but the idea of having the separate buttons is the real point here.
It would also, ironically, simplify the work a portal would have to do, too.
It would also, ironically, simplify the work a portal would have to do, too.
4551
Features / Re: New revs
« on March 5th, 2012, 01:43 AM »
(5 modified, 4KB)
Revision: 1430
Author: arantor
Date: 05 March 2012 00:43:13
Message:
! Move time offset and timezones to the server settings page, since they're really more server related than anything else. (ManageServer.php, ManageSettings.php)
! Perform a few little tweaks to make a few more ACP options searchable. (ManageServer.php, Admin language file)
! Rearrange a few more admin things: "Detailed Reports" into Members (seriously, why is this a 'server' thing, it's all about the people), "Search" into Server/Maint. (since it's all about configuring search) This isn't finalised of course and can always be changed back or to something different if desired. (Admin.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageServer.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageSettings.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.french.php
Revision: 1430
Author: arantor
Date: 05 March 2012 00:43:13
Message:
! Move time offset and timezones to the server settings page, since they're really more server related than anything else. (ManageServer.php, ManageSettings.php)
! Perform a few little tweaks to make a few more ACP options searchable. (ManageServer.php, Admin language file)
! Rearrange a few more admin things: "Detailed Reports" into Members (seriously, why is this a 'server' thing, it's all about the people), "Search" into Server/Maint. (since it's all about configuring search) This isn't finalised of course and can always be changed back or to something different if desired. (Admin.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageServer.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageSettings.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.french.php
4552
Features / Re: Poll mode
« on March 5th, 2012, 01:01 AM »
There's all sorts of things like that in SMF's admin panel, which is why I've been so despairing of it!
If I had more options to polls I'd do what I've done for Who's Online, and make a page out of it, but I can't think of any other options anywhere else in the admin panel that are related to polls.
If I had more options to polls I'd do what I've done for Who's Online, and make a page out of it, but I can't think of any other options anywhere else in the admin panel that are related to polls.
4553
Features / Re: New revs
« on March 5th, 2012, 12:58 AM »
(7 modified, 4KB)
Revision: 1429
Author: arantor
Date: 04 March 2012 23:58:00
Message:
! SMF bug (untracked?): internal admin search needs to un_htmlspecialchars() the search term before trying to apply it. (Admin.php)
! Move various 'who's online' settings to their own page in Member Options. (Admin.php, ManageSettings.php, ManageMemberOptions.php, Admin + Help + ManagePermissions + ManageSettings language files)
! Make sure the admin search results page has the right linktree. (Admin.php)
! Make sure UTC is actually included in the timezone list as it is a valid timezone in its own right, and was previously excluded in the server list (ManageSettings.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageMemberOptions.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageSettings.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Help.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManagePermissions.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.english.php
Revision: 1429
Author: arantor
Date: 04 March 2012 23:58:00
Message:
! SMF bug (untracked?): internal admin search needs to un_htmlspecialchars() the search term before trying to apply it. (Admin.php)
! Move various 'who's online' settings to their own page in Member Options. (Admin.php, ManageSettings.php, ManageMemberOptions.php, Admin + Help + ManagePermissions + ManageSettings language files)
! Make sure the admin search results page has the right linktree. (Admin.php)
! Make sure UTC is actually included in the timezone list as it is a valid timezone in its own right, and was previously excluded in the server list (ManageSettings.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageMemberOptions.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageSettings.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Help.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManagePermissions.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageSettings.english.php
4554
Sorry for yet another topic about a single admin setting, but I think it needs a bit of discussion.
Admin > Configuration > General > Poll Mode
You can set it to enable polls (default), disable polls, or show polls as topics. This is a bit weird, so let me explain.
If you disable polls (as opposed to show polls as topics), the poll+topic is actually hidden, it's hidden in message index, it's hidden in unread/unreadreplies, though you can still access the topic directly (which seems to me to defeat the point a bit). If you just 'show polls as topics', it's as though the poll was never added and there are no permissions to add/vote etc.
I don't know about you, but I never came across anyone who ever did properly disable polls, it's always done with permissions rather than outright turning them off (which says to me that people don't realise the option's there) and even if they did know it was there, I can't really see people using it.
So, I'm proposing to remove it, but I want to be sure that no-one's going to use it if I do. It isn't something that can be easily added back with a plugin.
Admin > Configuration > General > Poll Mode
You can set it to enable polls (default), disable polls, or show polls as topics. This is a bit weird, so let me explain.
If you disable polls (as opposed to show polls as topics), the poll+topic is actually hidden, it's hidden in message index, it's hidden in unread/unreadreplies, though you can still access the topic directly (which seems to me to defeat the point a bit). If you just 'show polls as topics', it's as though the poll was never added and there are no permissions to add/vote etc.
I don't know about you, but I never came across anyone who ever did properly disable polls, it's always done with permissions rather than outright turning them off (which says to me that people don't realise the option's there) and even if they did know it was there, I can't really see people using it.
So, I'm proposing to remove it, but I want to be sure that no-one's going to use it if I do. It isn't something that can be easily added back with a plugin.
4555
Features / Re: New revs
« on March 5th, 2012, 12:04 AM »
(6 modified, 5KB)
Revision: 1428
Author: arantor
Date: 04 March 2012 23:03:54
Message:
! Move the webmaster email settings out of the server settings page and into email settings, which is simpler than it sounds like it should be. Incidentally, admin search will now pick these settings up where it wouldn't before (and likely more of that to follow) (ManageMail.php, ManageServer.php, Admin + ManageMail language files)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageMail.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageServer.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageMail.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageMail.french.php
Revision: 1428
Author: arantor
Date: 04 March 2012 23:03:54
Message:
! Move the webmaster email settings out of the server settings page and into email settings, which is simpler than it sounds like it should be. Incidentally, admin search will now pick these settings up where it wouldn't before (and likely more of that to follow) (ManageMail.php, ManageServer.php, Admin + ManageMail language files)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageMail.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageServer.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageMail.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManageMail.french.php
4556
Features / Re: Home button
« on March 4th, 2012, 10:47 PM »
Well, that's the thing... if there's no link specified, it would just be the 'Home' tab as it stands now, without any changes.
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Features / Re: Home button
« on March 4th, 2012, 08:03 PM »
If that were to happen, I'd still make the top level item linking to the main site, then the forum index to be the first item dropdown. (Doing it as a separate tab makes more semantically accurate)
We could do that for the breadcrumb trail in which case, I'd probably make it Site Name > Forum.
I also think Forum is more formal than Community and honestly Community is preferable to me.
We could do that for the breadcrumb trail in which case, I'd probably make it Site Name > Forum.
I also think Forum is more formal than Community and honestly Community is preferable to me.
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Features / Home button
« on March 4th, 2012, 07:04 PM »
While I'd love Wedge to be the base of sites, I know that a significant number of users will be using it as an extra feature on a site they already run, as evidenced by the number of people who want to change where the home tab on the main menu goes.
What I would suggest then is to provide a space to enter a URL into. If the box is empty, all is as it is now, but if the box is filled with a URL, we should put that into the title heading (instead of scripturl) and we should tweak the menu, home would point just to this URL, and what was the home tab will become a "Community" tab with drop downs as we have now.
Thoughts?
(FWIW, XenForo does this.)
What I would suggest then is to provide a space to enter a URL into. If the box is empty, all is as it is now, but if the box is filled with a URL, we should put that into the title heading (instead of scripturl) and we should tweak the menu, home would point just to this URL, and what was the home tab will become a "Community" tab with drop downs as we have now.
Thoughts?
(FWIW, XenForo does this.)
4559
Features / Pretty URLs things
« on March 4th, 2012, 06:41 PM »
Just playing around with it now.
* Board URLs
They're not set up in the DB properly for any boards other than the first one, so we will need to fix that at some point, on my test site, smf/wedge/general is the first board, as it should be, but a new board created before PURLs was enabled is simply internally as /new-board-1/ rather than having the prefix.
* Topic URLs
I was going to say this was broken but I rechecked the DB and hadn't updated the key on it. Mind you, if the topic ID is in the URL, why exactly do we need to cache/index the title separately?
* Board URLs
They're not set up in the DB properly for any boards other than the first one, so we will need to fix that at some point, on my test site, smf/wedge/general is the first board, as it should be, but a new board created before PURLs was enabled is simply internally as /new-board-1/ rather than having the prefix.
* Topic URLs
I was going to say this was broken but I rechecked the DB and hadn't updated the key on it. Mind you, if the topic ID is in the URL, why exactly do we need to cache/index the title separately?
4560
Archived fixes / SMF bug 4757 (no way to prune spider stats)
« on March 4th, 2012, 06:34 PM »
Pruning logs of spider activity is easy, but purging the log of stats is not.
Fixed in r1427.
Posted: March 4th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Fixed in r1427.