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Features / Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« on June 1st, 2013, 02:53 PM »
I have the feeling you're going a long way to try and shoot this down.
Shoutbox? Sure, it's possible. Unlikely it'd be that big but if it was, fine, the user would still have to scroll down to the edit area and the odds of them doing so without seeing the notice are slim in a practical sense.
Using a custom CSS? If they're smart enough to understand how to set up a custom stylesheet themselves, they're probably smart enough also to understand why it's there in the first place - and that would also imply that a user-level setting as originally suggested would deal with that, since it tends towards the fact that people who flout such notices wouldn't find the option to turn them off anyway.
If I really wanted to be obnoxious about it, I could bring up popups both before and after posting that the user has to acknowledge. Perhaps one on saving someone else's post isn't a bad idea - but that also tends towards UAC Blindness as it so became known (in Vista, UAC would prompt you very, very often, to the point where you'd end up clicking OK just to make it go away unless you were smart enough to turn it off in the first place)
If you have anything better to suggest, I'd love to hear it.
Shoutbox? Sure, it's possible. Unlikely it'd be that big but if it was, fine, the user would still have to scroll down to the edit area and the odds of them doing so without seeing the notice are slim in a practical sense.
Using a custom CSS? If they're smart enough to understand how to set up a custom stylesheet themselves, they're probably smart enough also to understand why it's there in the first place - and that would also imply that a user-level setting as originally suggested would deal with that, since it tends towards the fact that people who flout such notices wouldn't find the option to turn them off anyway.
If I really wanted to be obnoxious about it, I could bring up popups both before and after posting that the user has to acknowledge. Perhaps one on saving someone else's post isn't a bad idea - but that also tends towards UAC Blindness as it so became known (in Vista, UAC would prompt you very, very often, to the point where you'd end up clicking OK just to make it go away unless you were smart enough to turn it off in the first place)
If you have anything better to suggest, I'd love to hear it.
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Features / Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« on June 1st, 2013, 02:37 PM »
Since it shows *above* the post editor... as per the screenshot... it wouldn't make any difference...
There's... something... on... the wing...
* Arantor switches gears for a minute
There's... something... on... the wing...
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Features / Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« on June 1st, 2013, 02:35 PM »
Nope, not on the full reply screen.
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Archived fixes / Re: Updated CSS code is buggy
« on June 1st, 2013, 02:28 PM »
So there's now a print_r($this->rules); statement in Class-CSS.php, at line 879.
Dumping all the CSS files locally gives me something beginning:
Array ( [1] => Array ( [selector] => .plainbox virtual [parent] => 0 [children] => Array ( ) [props] => Array ( [2] => Array ( [name] => padding [value] => .5em 1em [id] => 2 [parent] => 1 ) [3] => Array ( [name] => font-size [value] => .9em [id] => 3 [parent] => 1 ) [4] => Array ( [name] => line-height [value] => 1.4em [id] => 4 [parent] => 1 ) [5] => Array ( [name] => border [value] => 1px solid #bbb [id] => 5 [parent] => 1 ) [6] => Array ( [name] => background-color [value] => #f0f5f0 [id] => 6 [parent] => 1 ) [7] => Array ( [name] => margin [value] => .2em 1px 1em [id] => 7 [parent] => 1 ) [8] => Array ( [name] => border-radius [value] => 4px [id] => 8 [parent] => 1 ) ) ) [9] => Array ( [selector] => .wehead virtual [parent] => 0 [children] => Array ( [0] => 11 )... not repeated because it's all good.
But the test site just gives me:
Array ( [0] => Array ( [props] => Array ( [1] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 1 [parent] => 0 ) [2] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 2 [parent] => 0 ) [3] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 3 [parent] => 0 ) [4] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 4 [parent] => 0 ) [5] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 5 [parent] => 0 ) [6] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 6 [parent] => 0 ) [7] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 7 [parent] => 0 ) [8] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 8 [parent] => 0 ) [9] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 9 [parent] => 0 ) [10] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 10 [parent] => 0 ) [11] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 11 [parent] => 0 ) [12] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 12 [parent] => 0 ) [13] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 13 [parent] => 0 ) [14] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 14 [parent] => 0 ) [15] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 15 [parent] => 0 ) [16] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 16 [parent] => 0 ) [17] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 17 [parent] => 0 )
No selector is present in any of the elements so all the stuff is just the boilerplate around it. I've uploaded all the files multiple times so I know it's the current revision. I'd be quite happy to give you FTP access to it for you to play around with it but be warned - it's a crappy free host so all kinds of crap doesn't work properly (like, frequently, FTP)
Dumping all the CSS files locally gives me something beginning:
Array ( [1] => Array ( [selector] => .plainbox virtual [parent] => 0 [children] => Array ( ) [props] => Array ( [2] => Array ( [name] => padding [value] => .5em 1em [id] => 2 [parent] => 1 ) [3] => Array ( [name] => font-size [value] => .9em [id] => 3 [parent] => 1 ) [4] => Array ( [name] => line-height [value] => 1.4em [id] => 4 [parent] => 1 ) [5] => Array ( [name] => border [value] => 1px solid #bbb [id] => 5 [parent] => 1 ) [6] => Array ( [name] => background-color [value] => #f0f5f0 [id] => 6 [parent] => 1 ) [7] => Array ( [name] => margin [value] => .2em 1px 1em [id] => 7 [parent] => 1 ) [8] => Array ( [name] => border-radius [value] => 4px [id] => 8 [parent] => 1 ) ) ) [9] => Array ( [selector] => .wehead virtual [parent] => 0 [children] => Array ( [0] => 11 )... not repeated because it's all good.
But the test site just gives me:
Array ( [0] => Array ( [props] => Array ( [1] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 1 [parent] => 0 ) [2] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 2 [parent] => 0 ) [3] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 3 [parent] => 0 ) [4] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 4 [parent] => 0 ) [5] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 5 [parent] => 0 ) [6] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 6 [parent] => 0 ) [7] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 7 [parent] => 0 ) [8] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 8 [parent] => 0 ) [9] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 9 [parent] => 0 ) [10] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 10 [parent] => 0 ) [11] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 11 [parent] => 0 ) [12] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 12 [parent] => 0 ) [13] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 13 [parent] => 0 ) [14] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 14 [parent] => 0 ) [15] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 15 [parent] => 0 ) [16] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 16 [parent] => 0 ) [17] => Array ( [name] => [value] => [id] => 17 [parent] => 0 )
No selector is present in any of the elements so all the stuff is just the boilerplate around it. I've uploaded all the files multiple times so I know it's the current revision. I'd be quite happy to give you FTP access to it for you to play around with it but be warned - it's a crappy free host so all kinds of crap doesn't work properly (like, frequently, FTP)
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Features / Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« on June 1st, 2013, 01:24 PM »
Well, people are human and do make mistakes. This is more about dealing with those who do it repeatedly. I'm not sure, for example, whether to make this an option for users to turn off, but leave on by default... those who don't read it probably won't find the option anyway.
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Off-topic / Re: Scary Times Helping Other Admins
« on June 1st, 2013, 01:23 PM »
It's been a long time since actual technical competence were a requirement for running a website. :(
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Features / Re: Permissions UI, latest experiment
« on June 1st, 2013, 12:12 PM »
I think it's essentially encouraging me to go to town and not be too concerned about keeping compatibility in the converter.
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Features / Re: New revs
« on June 1st, 2013, 05:57 AM »
(9 modified, 3 added, 10KB)
Revision: 2145
Author: arantor
Date: 01 June 2013 04:56:35
Message:
! Create a language files for boards as Nao suggested recently. (Subs-BoardIndex.php, index and Boards language files)
! Move a language string into the post file, it's only ever used in the editor. (index and Post language files)
! For the lists of reported posts, also show the board that the post is currently in. (ModerationCenter.php, Profile-View.php, ModerationCenter.template.php, Profile.template.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ModerationCenter.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile-View.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Subs-BoardIndex.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/ModerationCenter.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/Profile.template.php
Added : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Boards.english-uk.php
Added : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Boards.english.php
Added : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Boards.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Post.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Post.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/index.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/index.french.php
Revision: 2145
Author: arantor
Date: 01 June 2013 04:56:35
Message:
! Create a language files for boards as Nao suggested recently. (Subs-BoardIndex.php, index and Boards language files)
! Move a language string into the post file, it's only ever used in the editor. (index and Post language files)
! For the lists of reported posts, also show the board that the post is currently in. (ModerationCenter.php, Profile-View.php, ModerationCenter.template.php, Profile.template.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ModerationCenter.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Profile-View.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Subs-BoardIndex.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/ModerationCenter.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/Profile.template.php
Added : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Boards.english-uk.php
Added : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Boards.english.php
Added : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Boards.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Post.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Post.french.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/index.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/index.french.php
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Features / Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« on June 1st, 2013, 05:21 AM »
Yeah, that's the thing. We're human, and having the prompt would likely quell the occasions it did happen by accident. Whether it discourages utter stupidity is anyone's guess. But I'm willing to give it a shot ^_^
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Features / Re: Something I learned from sm.org
« on June 1st, 2013, 04:53 AM »
Oh, doing it occasionally, it happens. Doing it *repeatedly*, including multiple times in the same thread, on the other hand is not really excusable...
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Features / Something I learned from sm.org
« on June 1st, 2013, 04:42 AM »
OK, I don't know if you saw what went on but there was one moderator in particular who kept pressing edit when he really meant quote. And given that it was being edited, I'm presuming that he's going to the full editor (because the inline editor would be hopefully clearer)
So I thought... what if it actually told you that you were editing someone else's post? It's not necessarily a *warning* because you're doing something potentially quite legitimate.
And so, the mock-up. I would have used a proper (i) symbol but I didn't have one quickly to hand. And yes, blue - green is used for success, red for warnings, blue is neutral.
So I thought... what if it actually told you that you were editing someone else's post? It's not necessarily a *warning* because you're doing something potentially quite legitimate.
And so, the mock-up. I would have used a proper (i) symbol but I didn't have one quickly to hand. And yes, blue - green is used for success, red for warnings, blue is neutral.
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Off-topic / Re: Scary Times Helping Other Admins
« on June 1st, 2013, 01:32 AM »
Yes, browser caches are wonderful things - until someone who doesn't understand tries to change something that is cached.
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Off-topic / Re: Next System Visitation
« on June 1st, 2013, 12:40 AM »
Just for those voting XenForo... if you keep those votes for it, you're going to be seeing the out of date version...
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Archived fixes / Re: Updated CSS code is buggy
« on June 1st, 2013, 12:10 AM »
What I don't get is why it works perfectly locally and not on their crappy setup.
I'll do that shortly.
I'll do that shortly.
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Archived fixes / Re: Updated CSS code is buggy
« on May 31st, 2013, 11:07 PM »
So I updated it to the latest SVN, and the errors are the same as before - even down to the same lines and the same mashed up CSS file generated in result.