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Features: Posts & Topics / Re: Likes
« on March 22nd, 2012, 12:27 PM »
Correct, yes, it's always on post id, never topic.
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Also, it may be possible that I forgot to deal with parent posts when splitting and merging topics. That, I'm 40% positive I dealt with them...
We'll figure it out. There's always maintenance and find/repair routines we can make ;)
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Bug reports / Board order issues
« on March 22nd, 2012, 12:27 PM »
I'm really not sure why this is the case but it needs fixing. Some of these boards I'm about to mention are not public visible.

Board index lists Public Area category as:
 - The Pub
     FAQs
     Features
     Bug reports
     Plugins
     Off-topic
     SMF
 - Dev Blog
 - Salvaged Topics
 - Salvaged Board

Going to The Pub itself also shows its sub-boards correctly, as does the view in Boards & Categories. But if I view the Public Area category as a whole[1] I get a very different order.

 - Salvaged Topics
 - Salvaged Board
 - The Pub
     FAQs
     Off-topic
     Features
     SMF
     Plugins
     Bug reports
 - Dev Blog


Now, I'm not 100% sure but for each level of hierarchy, that would be consistent with MyISAM ordering rather than correct ordering (i.e. order of creation).

I'm not sure how best to fix this. Part of me says we could just fix it by using ORDER BY board_order but I have a feeling we might be better served using Mark Rose's suggestion and applying the board order to the primary key (so that we end up with id_board as a UNIQUE, but board_order, id_board as physical primary key, so that when it's reordered, regardless of whether that's MyISAM[2] or InnoDB[3] it works properly)
 1. Also, why doesn't the header on the board index link to the category itself? I think it really should.
 2. MyISAM orders by creation, but there's a physical ALTER TABLE to reorder it in the manage boards code.
 3. InnoDB orders by primary key, so making the board_order the first half of the primary key, it will automatically be sorted into order.
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Development blog / Re: Aftermath of the Great Deployment
« on March 22nd, 2012, 12:16 PM »
I will take a look at it but right now (given 'T minus 2 days') I don't really feel I can give it my full attention, if that makes sense.

Also, I'm slightly surprised no-one's said anything about the page-index navigation having 'prev/next' arrows by the pages. I actually thought that was more of a usability improvement than a lot of things we did >_>
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Features: Posts & Topics / Re: Likes
« on March 22nd, 2012, 09:02 AM »
Did we? I don't actually remember that, but I guess the likes structure has no support for it at the present time.
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Archived fixes / Re : Errors when Profile menu is in sidebar
« on March 21st, 2012, 11:49 PM »
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But I hate that mod... :^^;: You know I'm not pro-big-icons. All I want is a functional menu really... :-/ Anyway. I'm sure you'll find a way!
I'll keep it toned down compared to that mod :P That's why I haven't touched it yet, I don't know how I want it all to look, I just know it needs going over and overhauling.
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Archived fixes / Re : Errors when Profile menu is in sidebar
« on March 21st, 2012, 11:45 PM »
The homepage is the most agreeable part of it, but other than that, it's not actually that nice. The nicest thing I could say about it is that it's functional. It's not particularly aesthetically pleasing, it is just functional.

The goal isn't to keep it functional, it's to make it a place where users might actually want to go. Maybe some aspects of http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=698 a touch.

UP's summary is definitely an improvement on the current summary, but I'm also concerned not just with how the user sees the summary, but how they access everything.
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Development blog / Re: Aftermath of the Great Deployment
« on March 21st, 2012, 11:42 PM »
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It's not that... Wedge generates a URL like shortened_url... It should be showing that exact same structure, because at that point, the shortened url is just like any proper 'string' between url tags (i.e. not a URL per se.)
That's the thing, it shouldn't even be doing that, the bare URL is supposed to remain a bare URL unless the author explicitly put it inside url tags, cf. the Dr Who thread in the private board where Aaron quoted a link of mine.
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IIRC you made the "first post is sticky" blog hack, and I don't think you've been using the same technique as I did..?
Do you remember what you did?
No, I messed around big-time with the way pagination was set up, but I think that's related to how 'new' is calculated. I'll add it to the to-investigate pile.
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Archived fixes / Re : Errors when Profile menu is in sidebar
« on March 21st, 2012, 11:32 PM »
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Yeah I know but apparently many people are using the sidebar menu, interestingly...
I have plans on redoing the profile area entirely (not entirely dissimilar to the admin panel, FWIW), so ultimately the sidebar menu is going to go and hopefully to be replaced with something better.

I have seen it on other accounts, and I'm hoping that's just a consequence of the buggy member options code rather than people setting them themselves...
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Archived fixes / Re: It's all gone horribly French!
« on March 21st, 2012, 11:30 PM »
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Hmm, I disagree on this one... Most of the team, you're likely to switch images per theme anyway, because your logo is just not in the right dimensions or (background) colours.
That's the thing, most sites don't run multiple themes, and of those that do, most of the time the admins don't really seem to care anyway and just use whatever logo they have.

A lot of themes don't even adhere to this one anyway, especially ones that come with their own logo, because people end up being told to replace the image rather than update this setting - because it's set in the theme's CSS more often than not. Certainly this is true of a bunch of Crip's themes, most of the DzinerStudio themes and some of Bloc's themes.
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I'm aboard the discard boat, myself.
I have no qualms about removal really.
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Well, they're all theme-related options ... If they're not consistent throughout all themes, they have no place in $settings, if you ask me. But I gather you're planning to change all that.
That's the thing. You and I might see them having per-theme use but experience of what 'real users' do (since I doubt you and I are particularly representative of the bulk of users) seems to suggest that themes don't tend to worry about these things much, doing what they do their own way, and dealing with it later, assuming of course that users 1) run multiple themes and 2) want to have different settings for each theme. The first is uncommon, the second rare at best.
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Archived fixes / Re : Errors when Profile menu is in sidebar
« on March 21st, 2012, 11:03 PM »
I haven't disabled the menu in profile :P I only disabled it in admin, and really we need to remove that entire code path anyway since we're not using that sidebar menu now.
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Development blog / Re: Aftermath of the Great Deployment
« on March 21st, 2012, 11:02 PM »
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Even stranger: editing this post shows me the original URL surrounded by url tags, instead of the shortened URL...
That's the bug we've been seeing, where things get wrapped in url tags when they shouldn't.
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Off-topic / Re: Doctor Who
« on March 21st, 2012, 10:44 PM »
Better photo, IMO: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/21/new_dr_who_companion/

I'm looking forward to it.
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Archived fixes / Re : Errors when Profile menu is in sidebar
« on March 21st, 2012, 10:32 PM »
That's the thing, I can get it as well when viewing profiles, and I have no idea why. It's as though the menu isn't set up properly for some reason, but I never get it locally.
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Plugins / Re: Hooks for thoughts
« on March 21st, 2012, 10:04 PM »
So, before/after posting, before/after editing, deleting, anything else?
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Archived fixes / Re : Errors when Profile menu is in sidebar
« on March 21st, 2012, 10:03 PM »
I did nothing to it in the profile area >_>