Wedge

We've managed to talk about several very very different things.

On the one hand, is user-created groups. A lot of that is UI fluff. I'd argue that the badges for these should never be shown (mind you I don't see that you'd ever have badges for them in the first place, eh)

On the other hand is groups based on other criteria that isn't assigned and isn't posts, e.g. likes. Or number of topics created. Or number of attachments posts. Or total time logged in. Or karma if we still had it. This is where it becomes painfully obvious that there are problems in the post count group setup, in terms of extensibility, usability and reliability. As I've alluded to, it's possible to make people admins *by accident* by screwing up the post count groups.

Which means, then, perhaps we want to rethink how post count groups are actually managed, and not make them groups in the current conventional sense. It does also suggest rethinking how such permissions are determined, too.

I know exactly when it broke, I broke it when I changed over everything internally to use the proper PHP timezone functions.

Also, interestingly, I gather SMF has moved the cache setting itself into Settings.php to enable getting modSettings properly from cache.

User-owned groups is something else again on top of the other types of groups mentioned.

The post you linked, it does pretty much cover everything, I think.

Yup, I was speaking pretty generically, though I would also note that there was something pretty specific that set me off on this one.

For what we're doing, 'is it ready for prime time' is pretty much 'is it ready for download' when you think about it. If it's ready for prime time, it's ready for download. So to my mind, it came across as a compliment wrapped in a 'when can we download it' question, which sets me off.

I'm sorry that I overreacted, as may be evident elsewhere, life for me is interesting right now, seeing how I split up from my long-term girlfriend and moved house last week, and I'm still unpacking. Consequently, I tend to see things even more cynically than normal, and I'm sorry I snapped - but hopefully you can understand where I'm coming from and why it pushes my buttons, especially since the very first thread in this board does essentially answer the more direct version of what you were asking.

In SMF and Wedge currently, the primary group badge is the only badge shown, and if the primary group does not have a badge, post count badges are shown. No additional groups are shown anywhere outside of the account settings page.

Well, it IS an actual warning system. It allows you to issue variable-strength warnings (or revoke previously issued warnings) with a single interface, and you can indeed issue warning messages to users from it. It's just not what you're expecting, doesn't mean it isn't capable.


The user menu is the one attached to the user name in posts, while the action menu is the More... menu in posts.

What you're referring to is the Quick Access menu which is something entirely separate, but I think you're right about it needing separators, and you're indeed agreeing with Nao, as it happens. (The main menu is the main menu at the top of the page, which has separators between items as appropriate)