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Features / Re: Thought system
« on May 26th, 2012, 02:16 PM »So, what if your friends never go online more than once a month...? They'll never see more than 10% of your notifications?
Hmm yes, I see what you mean. Although I do get FB notifications for stupid things like new posts in a group I'm on... (Okay, to be fair, FB allows me to disable these on a group by group basis.)
It is a social network, whether you want it or not... It's up to admins to determine how 'social' they want to be, I'd say.
We're arguing about two different things at this point. I'd rather keep thoughts on their own and have the 'wall' figured out as needed if it's going to be included, but honestly it's not something I'm even remotely interested in (building another Facebook does not interest me at all and to me seems to distract from the goal of Wedge as a killer forum), but the notifications side I'm much more interested in.
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Features / Re: Rewriting the skin file parser...
« on May 26th, 2012, 02:11 PM »
Yes, yes we should. That implies to me that we should load these as standard:
index.css
Sub/index.css (to extend index.css)
If IE6 is present, also load
index.ie6,ie7.css
Sub/index.replace.ie6.css
The replace keyword replaces the equivalent suffix earlier up, so Sub/index.replace.ie6.css replaces index.ie6.css but leaves index.ie6,ie7.css alone, as it's a different suffix.
index.css
Sub/index.css (to extend index.css)
If IE6 is present, also load
index.ie6,ie7.css
Sub/index.replace.ie6.css
The replace keyword replaces the equivalent suffix earlier up, so Sub/index.replace.ie6.css replaces index.ie6.css but leaves index.ie6,ie7.css alone, as it's a different suffix.
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The Pub / Re: Improvement to drafts (and posting, actually) I need to do
« on May 26th, 2012, 02:05 PM »
Seems meaningful enough, shouldn't be a big deal - in theory there will already be a draft id to work with at that point. The trick is to seamlessly fold it into the different routes of saving drafts.
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on May 25th, 2012, 11:45 PM »
That's the point, the notifications system I'm talking about doesn't go away straight away - it lives for a few days.
You wouldn't normally notify all your friends on an action. You would, however, normally notify them if it's a thread they're watching and you reply to it. Or like it etc.
This is also the thing about having a wall - it magnifies a lot of things, in a way that a notifications system doesn't; notifications are essentially personal while a wall is everyone's, and I don't particularly want to build a social network (even if a forum is a specific type of that)
You wouldn't normally notify all your friends on an action. You would, however, normally notify them if it's a thread they're watching and you reply to it. Or like it etc.
This is also the thing about having a wall - it magnifies a lot of things, in a way that a notifications system doesn't; notifications are essentially personal while a wall is everyone's, and I don't particularly want to build a social network (even if a forum is a specific type of that)
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on May 25th, 2012, 10:37 PM »
They are, but they're not. The underlying structure is virtually identical.
I'm in favour of having notifications a la Facebook and XenForo but I'm not a fan of walls per se.
I'm in favour of having notifications a la Facebook and XenForo but I'm not a fan of walls per se.
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on May 25th, 2012, 10:18 PM »
So are we building a forum or a social network?
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on May 25th, 2012, 08:48 PM »
I always thought of it being more like Facebook notifications than a full 'wall' per se.
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on May 25th, 2012, 08:23 PM »
Oh, I see what you mean.
Since it's not a wall, per se, but a stream of notifications (at least that's what I want to do), you only need to worry about notifying replies up the chain, and really that's only necessary up to the immediate parent IMO.
The stream by definition has a shorter life (I'm thinking 3-5 days for notifications you've seen before, no limit on unread notifications, for now at least)
Since it's not a wall, per se, but a stream of notifications (at least that's what I want to do), you only need to worry about notifying replies up the chain, and really that's only necessary up to the immediate parent IMO.
The stream by definition has a shorter life (I'm thinking 3-5 days for notifications you've seen before, no limit on unread notifications, for now at least)
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on May 25th, 2012, 07:54 PM »* Arantor is tired, was not sure (hence the 'what you seem to lose...' comment)
Managing walls in what respect?
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The Pub / Re: The Cookie Law (in the UK at least)
« on May 25th, 2012, 07:03 PM »
Well, I think we need to see really how this law gets enforced before we can say any further. I suspect this law will turn out to be somewhat toothless.
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on May 25th, 2012, 06:56 PM »
It certainly covers viewing a single conversation, which is the ideal IMO.
What you seem to lose is an easy way to view everything off a single person but I'm not sure that's a great loss at this time. I think it's going to be something we need to let run and let people play with and get to use. That said, I have a feeling your instinct is right on this one, it's usually pretty good.
What you seem to lose is an easy way to view everything off a single person but I'm not sure that's a great loss at this time. I think it's going to be something we need to let run and let people play with and get to use. That said, I have a feeling your instinct is right on this one, it's usually pretty good.
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Features / Re: Rewriting the skin file parser...
« on May 25th, 2012, 06:47 PM »
Hey, I've been busy, out yesterday fighting viruses, out today to London and back for a 15 minute interview >_>
I'm not sure which would be more natural, that's half the problem. I suspect ditching the separate skin types would make more sense, though. As long as it's documented, it'll be OK.
I'm not sure which would be more natural, that's half the problem. I suspect ditching the separate skin types would make more sense, though. As long as it's documented, it'll be OK.
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The Pub / Re: The Cookie Law (in the UK at least)
« on May 25th, 2012, 06:44 PM »
I also think the people complaining about this law are also missing the point... it's not a law that's in the works - it's been law for a year, but not enforced at all until tomorrow.
There were complaints made at the time it was in the works. I wrote to my MP, though why the hell I thought that would make any difference, I have no idea...
There were complaints made at the time it was in the works. I wrote to my MP, though why the hell I thought that would make any difference, I have no idea...
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The Pub / Re: The Cookie Law (in the UK at least)
« on May 25th, 2012, 12:30 PM »
The Noisen code seems to include Google Analytics, but the Wedge mainline code certainly does not, and I'm assuming that the cookies are still legacy of that.
FWIW I never visited Wedge.org on this PC until after the change to Wedge itself and I do not have the GA cookies present.
FWIW I never visited Wedge.org on this PC until after the change to Wedge itself and I do not have the GA cookies present.
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Features / Re: New WYSIWYG editor..?
« on May 24th, 2012, 06:22 PM »
I have yet to see a legitimate case where I'd actually trust any non administrator to post anything with JavaScript or Flash in it - outside the aforementioned media sites, and honestly, Aeva-type auto embedding, or failing that a custom BBC is still a better solution.
I get where you're going with accepting copy/pasted code, and that's something I want to see fixed up.
I get where you're going with accepting copy/pasted code, and that's something I want to see fixed up.