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Off-topic / Re: Help with apache2
« on June 4th, 2012, 04:16 PM »
How is it installed?
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The Pub / Re: The Cookie Law (in the UK at least)
« on June 4th, 2012, 03:48 PM »
And that doesn't actually apply to us at all, as it happens.

A single Wedge install is not one-of-multiple first party websites. It does apply to the likes of Google Analytics of course and is by far a better solution than this bloody shambles.

The only time it would really come into play is for analytics type plugins for adding GA etc.
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Features: Upcoming / Re: Q&A enhancement: multiple answers and multiple languages
« on June 4th, 2012, 03:41 PM »
Thanks, Dr. Deejay :)

@Nao, the quote about treating her like a lady is in the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, when Dr McCoy from the original series is on board talking to Lt Cmdr Data, about the ship having the right name, Enterprise, and that if you treat her right...
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Features / Re: Shole's List
« on June 4th, 2012, 01:05 AM »
Why would you store the same thing twice in different forms, though? If ever you update one of them (e.g. fixing capitalisation) you'd have to fix all the textual forms too.

Also, same question as before; would you fetch all the tags wherever you show a topic name? You might do that with full on topic prefixes but you probably wouldn't with tags (at least, other systems that do topic tags do not do that)

And really, having it outside the title as I've been saying just simplifies the whole procedure anyway, surely?
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Off-topic / Re: Help with apache2
« on June 4th, 2012, 12:33 AM »
*shrug* I have no idea what you're actually trying to achieve and from where I'm (drunkenly) sat, it looks like it's more complicated than it should be...
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Features / Re: Badges and the displaying thereof
« on June 4th, 2012, 12:32 AM »
It would be better if the calls to lMD didn't indicate what they wanted per se, but indicated what they were calling for, and let lMD deal with that. Right now we have 'minimal', 'normal' and 'profile', but only the latter is really expressive of what you're actually doing there.

We have talked about it before, actually, to do exactly that - indicate what purpose the data is being called for.
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Features / Re: Shole's List
« on June 4th, 2012, 12:31 AM »
If it's stored as text in the subject, you're fucked if you ever hope to efficiently filter on it (something that you can actually do with prefixes). I mean, take the example in the private board that has [WIP] and [Plugin] as effective prefixes. Now do a filter on just WIP, or just Plugin - you either can't do it, or you end up doing WHERE subject LIKE '%[WIP]%' which is nice and efficient.

There are two points to doing it outside the title; partly you get the ability to define new titles and remove existing ones without touching any of the actual subject data, and mostly that you get to filter on it efficiently.

I honestly don't know how many more ways I can explain that there are three different concepts here that all vaguely overlap but that what I'm talking about is not something I want in the core.
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Off-topic / Re: Help with apache2
« on June 4th, 2012, 12:09 AM »
Well, that's because the owner:group of the files is totally different to the owner:group Apache is running as, so 777 is all that will work.
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Features / Re: Shole's List
« on June 3rd, 2012, 11:56 PM »
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Hmm... I don't know what you mean by querying on message index. Surely we can simply be happy with showing the prefixes as they are, right now...?
Or did you mean actually showing it in the weird way you pointed to on that other forum, with badge-like styling...?
Yes, I did. Or as per http://www.smfpacks.com/page/sa=atp_screenshots indicates (badly) - something a lot more complicated, and very distinctly separate to the subject as currently stored.

I would note I've been asked about this before, and specifically saying that they would like it modelled based on the custom field/prefix setup that SimpleDesk had.
Posted: June 3rd, 2012, 11:24 PM

Also note that it can be extremely useful to be able to filter by prefix, something that is a massive amount of work when done by juggling the subject field.
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Features / Re: Shole's List
« on June 3rd, 2012, 11:04 PM »
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Hmm... I don't know, I had in mind the idea that these topic tags could 'simply' be put into the topic title as a regular prefix... i.e. the admin decides whether new prefixes can be added manually (with brackets), or whether people are forced to use the valid ones.
The problem with doing that is our old friend performance. Doing tags like that implies that we have to do querying every message-index, as opposed to making prefixes an explicit plugin.
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I said that because AeMe already has 'album icons', which, come to think of it, could be used exactly the same way with boards... Since an album is a board now, we (okay, I) could "simply" move the album icon code to a more general board icon code block.
*nods*
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Off-topic / Re: Function Time Limit
« on June 3rd, 2012, 10:57 PM »
I said *might*. It's not really a *huge* change from my perspective, MySQLi can be used mostly as a drop-in replacement over MySQL's original driver, but I'm not sure how widely deployed MySQLi is.
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Off-topic / Re: Help with apache2
« on June 3rd, 2012, 10:49 PM »
apt-get should be able to deal with that for you, apt-get clean IIRC.
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Features / Re: Shole's List
« on June 3rd, 2012, 08:29 PM »
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We can have tag types. Tags that are created by admins, tags that are created by users. Etc. No problem...
Would you be displaying that tag everywhere the title would normally be? That's really what we're getting at: tags that are as prominent as the topic's title.
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Why not AeMe?
I still consider AeMe and attachments to be the same thing, really. Yes, that's doable, provided that it's done like avatars and not actually served through action=media or action=dlattach.
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Which is why it should be an option at runtime.
There is such a thing as having too many choices in the core ;)
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Off-topic / Re: What the...
« on June 3rd, 2012, 07:47 PM »
I have no idea but it's been there since Wedge r1 (back when it was still Search.php not the two separate files) which means it's been there since SMF 2.0 RC3 and likely earlier.
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Features / Re: Shole's List
« on June 3rd, 2012, 07:44 PM »
*nods* Yes, we would. But wouldn't it be better in the long run?