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Bug reports / Re: Reply post showing as 'New'
« on June 8th, 2012, 06:20 PM »
It might make a difference on nginx/PHP-FPM setups but for folks on Apache/PHP/mod-php, it makes no difference at all, doubly so when mod-gzip is enabled, since Apache will wait until PHP ends execution before returning to the user.
The only way around that is process forking and even I'm not crazy enough to go down that particular rabbit hole with Wedge. I've done it in other cases and it can work, but not for this case.
The only way around that is process forking and even I'm not crazy enough to go down that particular rabbit hole with Wedge. I've done it in other cases and it can work, but not for this case.
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Off-topic / Re: Bitcointalk.org $11k bounty for new forum software
« on June 8th, 2012, 06:18 PM »
$11k? That's my living costs for a number of months, really. But I couldn't in good conscience accept. Not just because I find the entire idea of Bitcoins so ridiculous but because they're arguing for changes that don't really benefit anyone except in the feel-good department.
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Features / Re: Login/Register Feature
« on June 8th, 2012, 06:15 PM »
I do not want this in the core. Almost all the forums I run do not need these things, nor do I want them there. That's not to say they shouldn't exist, but that they shouldn't really be in the core.
There is already FB integration available as a plugin. I forsee more of the same happening with the others - so if you want it, it's an option, if you don't (and you might not, say for intranet support, or anonymity reasons or whatever, you shouldn't be made to feel like you're supposed to use this)
There is already FB integration available as a plugin. I forsee more of the same happening with the others - so if you want it, it's an option, if you don't (and you might not, say for intranet support, or anonymity reasons or whatever, you shouldn't be made to feel like you're supposed to use this)
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Features / Re: Modify Own Post
« on June 8th, 2012, 06:13 PM »
There are arguments both ways about doing this, actually, and even about hybridising the two so that there's only one edit function, AJAXively allowing for everything in one hit, even more esoteric things like attachments.
Though that makes it harder to extend.
Though that makes it harder to extend.
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Other software / Re: Customisation site rewrrite
« on June 8th, 2012, 03:46 PM »
Who'd have thought, eh?
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Other software / Re: Finally, they've made an announcement
« on June 8th, 2012, 03:46 PM »
Welcome!
You know, we've disagreed a lot in the past (and more recent past!), and I think you can be a bit pig-headed sometimes, but I'm sure it's less than you think I can be sometimes ;) (I'm not quite feeling humble enough to apologise for the attitude I've had in the past, but I'm aware that I can be an utter arse and that some of my frustration has been vented in your direction, and not always deserved.)
You know, we've disagreed a lot in the past (and more recent past!), and I think you can be a bit pig-headed sometimes, but I'm sure it's less than you think I can be sometimes ;) (I'm not quite feeling humble enough to apologise for the attitude I've had in the past, but I'm aware that I can be an utter arse and that some of my frustration has been vented in your direction, and not always deserved.)
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Features / Re: Thought system
« on June 8th, 2012, 03:37 PM »
I think I'd prefer rethinks. Seems more logical and probably faster.
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Off-topic / Re: The Humble Indie Bundle V
« on June 8th, 2012, 03:10 PM »
Yeah, Braid is awesome if mindbendingly hard.
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Bug reports / Re: Reply post showing as 'New'
« on June 8th, 2012, 03:10 PM »
Yup. It's broken however you slice it, really. But none of the systems really has it completely right, because they always have to tread performance vs accuracy.
vBulletin for example considers all posts to be read in a post once they're past a certain age, for example.
vBulletin for example considers all posts to be read in a post once they're past a certain age, for example.
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Bug reports / Re: Reply post showing as 'New'
« on June 8th, 2012, 02:46 PM »
But marking a board as seen is only really doable if the bulk of the board is read.
The current board-is-read is basically wrong either way.
The current board-is-read is basically wrong either way.
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Off-topic / Re: The Humble Indie Bundle V
« on June 8th, 2012, 02:44 AM »
I'll vouch for Braid, that's an awesome little gem of a game. Super Meat Boy irritated me quite a bit, though I'm not sure why. Lone Survivor I haven't yet encountered, though I might have to try and find the time soon.
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Features / Re: New revs
« on June 8th, 2012, 02:31 AM »
(3 files, 3KB)
Revision: 1609
Author: arantor
Date: 08 June 2012 01:31:22
Message:
! Anti spam Q&A should be bbc parsed. (Subs-Editor.php)
! The logic for highlighting rows should not be entirely down to the template, in case plugins want to override it. This way the list of classes is set in the core but the skin is free to decide how to show it. *shrug* I needed this for a plugin, shoot me. (MessageIndex.php, MessageIndex.template.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/MessageIndex.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Subs-Editor.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/MessageIndex.template.php
Revision: 1609
Author: arantor
Date: 08 June 2012 01:31:22
Message:
! Anti spam Q&A should be bbc parsed. (Subs-Editor.php)
! The logic for highlighting rows should not be entirely down to the template, in case plugins want to override it. This way the list of classes is set in the core but the skin is free to decide how to show it. *shrug* I needed this for a plugin, shoot me. (MessageIndex.php, MessageIndex.template.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/MessageIndex.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Subs-Editor.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/MessageIndex.template.php
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The Pub / Re: Features
« on June 8th, 2012, 01:15 AM »
Yup, I discussed it at some length in http://wedge.org/pub/feats/6898/plugin-manager-mechanics/ - though I'd note I've made it more powerful since then, but I will properly document all its flexibility at some point.
Structurally, the plugin manager is really just a poshed-up hooks manager with some frilly bits, it wouldn't work nearly as well as it does without the template skeleton system, which breaks templates down into sections and allows for injection content in between them, so it's possible to do a lot more without changing templates - and that's ultimately why I chose to disallow any file edits of any kind. Yes, it's more restrictive, but the ease of use really trumps that IMO.
Dragooon and Live also have access to the source and have been busy writing plugins as well as I have, so it's also not like there isn't some knowledge around its functionality here :)
Structurally, the plugin manager is really just a poshed-up hooks manager with some frilly bits, it wouldn't work nearly as well as it does without the template skeleton system, which breaks templates down into sections and allows for injection content in between them, so it's possible to do a lot more without changing templates - and that's ultimately why I chose to disallow any file edits of any kind. Yes, it's more restrictive, but the ease of use really trumps that IMO.
Dragooon and Live also have access to the source and have been busy writing plugins as well as I have, so it's also not like there isn't some knowledge around its functionality here :)
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Bug reports / Re: Reply post showing as 'New'
« on June 8th, 2012, 01:15 AM »
Yay for SMF bugs.
That's behaviour we've inherited from SMF - since return-to-topic is the default (and is default even in the distribution), you never go to the message index, so it never clears that board as being having unread. SMF is exactly the same in that regard.
In fact the only behaviour we've really changed is that unread doesn't differentiate between 'since last session' and 'forever', meaning that you won't get things appearing and disappearing there.
That's behaviour we've inherited from SMF - since return-to-topic is the default (and is default even in the distribution), you never go to the message index, so it never clears that board as being having unread. SMF is exactly the same in that regard.
In fact the only behaviour we've really changed is that unread doesn't differentiate between 'since last session' and 'forever', meaning that you won't get things appearing and disappearing there.
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Plugins / Re: Hooks for moderation actions
« on June 7th, 2012, 09:01 PM »
Awesome, that might just be enough time :P