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Other software / Re: More thoughts on SMF 2.1
« on August 25th, 2012, 01:07 AM »
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Well, right now I'm wondering if the relative success of Wuthering in the poll could be due to my using Segoe UI in it..?
Maybe if I changed it to Arial and I set Segoe UI here, we'd see a vote reversal immediately.
Try it. Did I link the article about Segoe UI, actually? http://www.datamation.com/columns/executive_tech/article.php/3601421 if you haven't seen it.

It's actually linked from a piece about MS' new logo which is as you mention, Segoe UI with 4 solid boxes. Even I can do better than that.

I like that new logo, is pretty neat :)
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Off-topic / Re: I know what. I can't figure out how to ask how.
« on August 25th, 2012, 01:05 AM »
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Arantor I seem to remember a few of them where the user was basically saying you didn't know how the program worked when you tried to help them.
It's happened enough times now. I'm just waiting for the time when someone says the same to me about Wedge. Especially if it's in relation to the plugin system.
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I really don't blame developers for getting disgusted and giving up on people after experiences like that.
You, sadly, are the minority. There are people that flat out believe that we, as developers, actually owe them something, for nothing.
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French I don't mind popping up. I can sometimes remember enough to figure out what it means.
Heh, same here.
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Side note. Nao all the mentioning of Garlic sausages has to be some kind of psych war ops. I miss small stuff like that here in the land of plastic food.
It's not a psych war op. It is simply that he likes garlic sausage :)
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The Pub / Re: Skin showdown
« on August 25th, 2012, 01:03 AM »
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I didn't know. That's a cool feature.
Just a bit pity that the looks of the menu change.
Actually it's completely intentional. The sidebar look does not look right when folded down there. Nao and I have both experimented with this in the past.
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It disappears when crossing the space between tab en dropdown. Only when being very fast it works.
I hope it's a bit clear what I mean.
Any JavaScript errors?
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For me the menus on the right hand side are awkward. But I'm left handed so that may play a big part in that.
Presumably using a mouse in your left hand? (Interestingly, right-handed mouse users generally have the same problem with the menu on the left, it's a case of moving the mouse in the direction away from which is comfortable for how our arm and hand muscles tend to develop.)
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Off-topic / Re: Nexus 7
« on August 25th, 2012, 12:41 AM »
I have to admit I rarely saw crashes under 4.3 but 5.0's Safari crashes regularly on my iPad 1 because of the limits of physical memory. Every time it does crash it's always with an out-of-memory error. Every. Damn. Time. (Yes, I go looking for that sort of thing.)

Other browsers have exactly the same problem.
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Off-topic / Re: PHPSESSID Brute force
« on August 25th, 2012, 12:36 AM »
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- Range can even be country-based...
For now. IPv4 country lists are going to start to become more and more confused as the world is just not ready for IPv6 and we'll see more and more blocks change hands.
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Since most spammers are from a different country than the 'expected one', it could be an okay solution. After all, do you know of many people who would move to another continent while their session is opened..?
Some of the big IPs have been known to change all four octets of an IPv4 between requests. It happens a lot less now but it's not unheard of. We simply cannot use it.
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Thing is, you tend to go a bit much these days for what seems to have become your favorite Wargames quote
No, it's not because the only winning move is not to play. There are reasons why this stuff isn't in SMF or Wedge. If I genuinely thought for one moment that IP binding of any shape or form was even remotely practical for anything, I'd have implemented it. As it stands I still need to remove the ban system, because IP bans are so ridiculously broken it's incredible, and not only because there's no IPv6 support.

You do remember what happened with SMF Hacks, right? Where he put a ban on my IP address and ended up losing so many legitimate customers because of it?

I even contemplated actually removing any kind of IP address tracking from Wedge at one point, only to realise that people would expect it to be there and no matter how much I shouted that it doesn't work, people wouldn't listen. There are a precious few cases where it does work (i.e. whitelisting for search engines against known IP address blocks) but for anything else it simply should not be used.

Where we are with it is about the best we can realistically be, because while I'm all for keeping things secure, I'm not going to make it more secure for some and generate MASSES of bug reports for 'it doesn't work'. Because I can't in good conscience turn around and say it's by design, when all it's demonstrating is how the design is wrong.

The ONLY way I'd support it is if it were implemented as an option but not allow it in the actual admin panel itself. That way only the people who actually understood the implications would be able to turn it on in the first place.
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The Pub / Re: Skin showdown
« on August 24th, 2012, 11:48 PM »
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I don't like the sidemenu on the left so those skins are a no go for me.
It's actually mostly configurable at the skin level with little real work. But there's a secondary factor that few people realise... I don't see a sidebar at the side at all - on narrow browser windows, it actually drops to the bottom of the page anyway ;)
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I was hoping for a more polished assortment of themes that do justice to the Wedge brand
I was hoping for people to understand that there's only so much that two people can do in their spare time when life intervenes. I was also hoping that people wouldn't just expect miracles from us and that instead of expecting it to be wonderful, might actually be prepared to put some effort in down the line, but I guess no-one's going to be happy today.
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Now theres an idea?
Uh, no. Let's just say that Bloc and us don't get on very well at all. You should read the debate. It would be informative.
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New software, particularly WEDGE should = A new overall look that differentiates significantly from other forums in general.
Why? Forum software as we currently know it is over a decade old. It has not changed significantly in that time. The implication to me is that it has not changed significantly in that time because it works well for its task.

There are always going to be individual cases where very big customisations are appropriate. But for the majority of forums, the standard forum structure works extremely well.
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A fresh bold new look that definitely stands out from the rest. Something that truely signifies the new era in forum software that Wedge is attempting to convey?..Yes?
There's two other things to consider.

1. How much screaming and carrying on goes on every single time Facebook implements a major change to their UI? Why do you suppose this is?

2. As a sort of corollary to the answer to the above question, something that is a long way departed from the conventional forum structure is actually going to confuse people, leading to a feeling of detachment, ostricisation, and any headway made out of doing something different is lost.

It doesn't matter how different it is, if no-one wants to use it because no-one understands it. Why do you think so many people want to emulate the layouts of other software?
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Off-topic / Re: I know what. I can't figure out how to ask how.
« on August 24th, 2012, 10:39 PM »
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I'll admit I am bad about trying the do not do stuff just to see what happens.

But I do it on a spare computer here at the house. Not on a production server.
I do that too. Again I do it on a spare computer and I do so knowing full well it's likely going to be messy. Doing it because of not being bothered enough to read the advice put in front of you, or thinking it does not apply to you is going to cause a LOT of frustration.
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Some of the stuff I read on support forums saddens me for the future of the human race.
Did you see the thread where I was flat out called clueless?
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Mine wasn't quite that bad, or simple, but I still had to crawl away and die somewhere! lol (It was a steep learning curve which has now been learnt! :ph34r:
I credited you with a bit more intelligence than to ask a really straightforward question :)
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(Can I just say that a lot of the smilies come up in French when hovering)
Sure you can, because it's true. Customised smileys, as such, get input in the language of the person creating them. There's no multi-language support by definition for such things.
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Off-topic / Re: I know what. I can't figure out how to ask how.
« on August 24th, 2012, 09:42 PM »
Note that both Nao and I get full of wrath not because of simple questions. It's never just because of a simple question.

The usual cause is when it's a simple question that has already been answered and no effort has been put in ahead of asking, e.g. it's in the FAQ, or a simple search will definitely find it. Or, worst of all, you've managed to ignore the 18pt high, bold, bright red letters and still proceed to carry out the operation, and are then surprised (or even full of self-righteous wrath) when it doesn't work as expected.
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The Pub / Re: Skin showdown
« on August 24th, 2012, 07:44 PM »
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(Hey Pete, I think I've found a bug in the poll system... The voter viewing options are all off by default... Shouldn't it be set to the first one by default?)
Yay another bug :P Yeah, it can have a default.

I actually like all of them, it's almost mood dependent, but I tend to stick with Weaving because it's the default theme and I'm most used to it.
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Off-topic / Re: PHPSESSID Brute force
« on August 24th, 2012, 07:42 PM »
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- We don't give a damn about guests having their PHPSESSID stolen, of course.
Correct.
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- Can you quote a single case where someone would change their IP all of a sudden while browsing? It would definitely disrupt more than one site...
AOL users. Mobile users. People intentionally changing their IP address to fool stupid proxy blockers or some types of ban.
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- How 'bout accepting an IP change in the same range?
Depends on the range. Some of the above need different sizes of range to others.
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- And if we provide this as an option, disabled by default, it's a win-win situation...
I don't think it is a win-win situation. There are enough people that mess around with harmless settings in SMF and cause trouble and need support. Give them something that could potentially lock them out, that they can only fix by phpMyAdmin? No chance.
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Off-topic / Re: PHPSESSID Brute force
« on August 24th, 2012, 02:34 PM »
Because you'll have users whose IP changes pretty much every request. Which means every other page they see will be a password confirmation one... yay.

Then you'll get complaints of 'it's not remembering my password', which means people will be throwing bugs left and right when it's working entirely as designed, but that doesn't mean it's the *right* design.
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Off-topic / Re: I know what. I can't figure out how to ask how.
« on August 24th, 2012, 04:10 AM »
Even the free version of Aeva can deal with uploading and serving of files...
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Off-topic / Re: I know what. I can't figure out how to ask how.
« on August 24th, 2012, 03:28 AM »
Hosting on a different server basically means you couldn't really handle approval unless they had the relevant upload details. It would just be easiest to use Aeva Media.
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Off-topic / Re: PHPSESSID Brute force
« on August 24th, 2012, 02:29 AM »
Using IP binding might stop 99% of session hijacks. It also just happens to screw up a significant proportion of legitimate users too, enough that you don't want to have to deal with the 'it's broken' support reports.
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Off-topic / Re: Doctor Who
« on August 23rd, 2012, 04:19 PM »
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That reminds me, I really need to watch The Christmas Invasion one day (as well as 2x01), and re-watch the Fireplace episode which I don't remember much about...
Christmas Invasion is great, 2x01 is a little less wonderful, though it's a nice throwback to series 1, and it is referenced in series 3's Gridlock.
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Don't know a thing about the old Who episodes (I really only watched 5 minutes of Genesis of the Daleks and City of Death, and have yet to find the motivation to go beyond these appalling minutes, sorry about that...), so I'll just keep my mouth shut about the characters
Pyramids of Mars is probably a better story.

Genesis of the Daleks is quite a long story (6 episodes), but Pyramids of Mars is 4 episodes, and has interesting stuff going on pretty early. The downside to the 6-serial stories is that they're generally stretched out to fit.
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These days I've been watching Joking Around, which is the last remaining Moffat show I had to watch (loved Sherlock, Who and Coupling, and after J/A, well, can't find anything, let alone with English subtitles...)
Joking Apart is a sitcom but it is based on him splitting up with his wife, so not surprising that it makes you feel that way. It's also why I haven't gone to check it out. You might find Press Gang watchable, though.