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Features / Re: Changing topic/post owner
« on November 3rd, 2012, 11:30 PM »
I'm not so much thinking of how FB did it, but more how the blog posts got updated to make sure the right person was the 'topic starter' from way back, which is pretty much how you've suggested it there.
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Archived fixes / Re: Small bug in permissions
« on November 3rd, 2012, 11:29 PM »
No... the whole problem comes about because a language string unknowingly had a " in it. Either JSE has to fix it, or we have to hunt down every single string that might have a " in it... this is the problem I'm referring to.
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Archived fixes / Re: Minor glitch on the admin login page
« on November 3rd, 2012, 11:03 PM »
pls 2 not b usin postimage kthx :P
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Archived fixes / Re: Small bug in permissions
« on November 3rd, 2012, 11:02 PM »
It does raise an issue - how many more strings are called that have " in them?
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Features / Re: New revs
« on November 3rd, 2012, 09:06 PM »
(6 files, 3KB)
Revision: 1766
Author: arantor
Date: 03 November 2012 20:05:50
Message:
! Temporary workaround for permissions bug as reported by Dr Deejay - anything that goes into ask/say can't have quotes in it. (ManagePermissions language file)
! Upgraded BB to 2.2.11. (Security.php)
! Add countdown for admin timeout. It's not exactly pretty but I'm happy with it for the moment. (Admin.php, Admin.template.php, Admin language file)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Security.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/Admin.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManagePermissions.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManagePermissions.french.php
Revision: 1766
Author: arantor
Date: 03 November 2012 20:05:50
Message:
! Temporary workaround for permissions bug as reported by Dr Deejay - anything that goes into ask/say can't have quotes in it. (ManagePermissions language file)
! Upgraded BB to 2.2.11. (Security.php)
! Add countdown for admin timeout. It's not exactly pretty but I'm happy with it for the moment. (Admin.php, Admin.template.php, Admin language file)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/Admin.php
Modified : /trunk/Sources/Security.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/Admin.template.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/Admin.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManagePermissions.english.php
Modified : /trunk/Themes/default/languages/ManagePermissions.french.php
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Archived fixes / Re: Small bug in permissions
« on November 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM »
Thanks for the report. I know why it's happening, it's one of the bugs relating to the new ask/say code where the language string contains a " - and JavaScriptEscape doesn't escape those.
I've fixed it locally but it does raise issues for the future.
I've fixed it locally but it does raise issues for the future.
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Features / Re: Changing topic/post owner
« on November 3rd, 2012, 06:51 PM »
You mean multiple owners per topic? Eeek that would be not nice for performance pretty much everywhere :/ Or failing that, the ability to post as another user (e.g. Post as 'Team' or Post as Yourself) - that interpretation would be interesting and is definitely getting into plugin territory.
For the functionality described in this thread, assume it will be built in some fashion. I'm just curious as to whether it should be core or not. I know there are instances it might have been useful here.
For the functionality described in this thread, assume it will be built in some fashion. I'm just curious as to whether it should be core or not. I know there are instances it might have been useful here.
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Features / Changing topic/post owner
« on November 3rd, 2012, 06:29 PM »
Random idea: what if you could select a topic (or posts) to change the owner of?
I don't mean reattribution as per the current admin feature, but if you have a topic added by a moderator and then you change its owner to a generic 'team' account?
Would you rather this feature be a plugin or a core feature?
I don't mean reattribution as per the current admin feature, but if you have a topic added by a moderator and then you change its owner to a generic 'team' account?
Would you rather this feature be a plugin or a core feature?
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Features / Re: You will have to revalidate in...
« on November 3rd, 2012, 05:28 PM »
I wasn't necessarily planning on it being updated through JavaScript but just when you loaded the page.
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Features / Re: You will have to revalidate in...
« on November 3rd, 2012, 04:09 PM »
I don't have a huge problem with allowing the revalidation time being changed, but no more than 6 hours IMO.
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The Pub / Re: About SMF and this project
« on November 3rd, 2012, 03:12 AM »
What does it lack about being engaging that, say, MyBB has?
Speaking as someone who was inside the system when the churn was really going on, I think the largest part of the problem isn't that the platform is too hard to get into - I managed to make dozens of mods (second only to Karl in terms of number) without any problems. The churn is the first problem - all the people who were around during 1.1 that got to know it have pretty much all gone in the delay of waiting for 2.0. The second problem is that the politics and BS that are still flying around has since driven away the people who do know the platform.
There is a group of hardcore SMF coders, who know the system inside and out, who've been using this code for years. I'm in that group, so is Nao, Feline, SlammedDime, plus the former developers. We've all lived and breathed it. But there is absolutely no-one left in any meaningful capacity now out of that group. Even the current developers - who to be fair to them are doing a great job of trying to get to know the thousands of lines of code - don't have that same depth of knowledge, so they're already stuck playing catch-up, while those of us who've been doing this stuff way too long have all been driven away by the penis waving.
The Forks board is probably the greatest example of that, at least as far as Wedge is concerned. There are still only two viable forks of SMF, all of the others long since abandoned. Yet because we are still using SMF 1.1.x's licence (for our protection, I might add), it's not merely forbidden to link to here, it's practically forbidden to even discuss it. (Even though they themselves went to great lengths to defend SMF 1.1.x's licence as 'open' without really being open, which is beyond hypocritical)
Basically, what it all amounts to is a serious case of 'Not Invented Here' syndrome, combined with not wanting anyone else to play in their sandbox. Add three parts hypocrisy, two parts idiocy and one part stick-up-the-ass.
Speaking as someone who was inside the system when the churn was really going on, I think the largest part of the problem isn't that the platform is too hard to get into - I managed to make dozens of mods (second only to Karl in terms of number) without any problems. The churn is the first problem - all the people who were around during 1.1 that got to know it have pretty much all gone in the delay of waiting for 2.0. The second problem is that the politics and BS that are still flying around has since driven away the people who do know the platform.
There is a group of hardcore SMF coders, who know the system inside and out, who've been using this code for years. I'm in that group, so is Nao, Feline, SlammedDime, plus the former developers. We've all lived and breathed it. But there is absolutely no-one left in any meaningful capacity now out of that group. Even the current developers - who to be fair to them are doing a great job of trying to get to know the thousands of lines of code - don't have that same depth of knowledge, so they're already stuck playing catch-up, while those of us who've been doing this stuff way too long have all been driven away by the penis waving.
The Forks board is probably the greatest example of that, at least as far as Wedge is concerned. There are still only two viable forks of SMF, all of the others long since abandoned. Yet because we are still using SMF 1.1.x's licence (for our protection, I might add), it's not merely forbidden to link to here, it's practically forbidden to even discuss it. (Even though they themselves went to great lengths to defend SMF 1.1.x's licence as 'open' without really being open, which is beyond hypocritical)
Basically, what it all amounts to is a serious case of 'Not Invented Here' syndrome, combined with not wanting anyone else to play in their sandbox. Add three parts hypocrisy, two parts idiocy and one part stick-up-the-ass.
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The Pub / Re: About SMF and this project
« on November 3rd, 2012, 02:31 AM »The biggest problem I notice with people's opinions on SMF is that it is obviously too bland. Within those 5 years, something could have been done to help bring it further into what the web is now rather than what it was 5 years ago. I'm not totally sure if SMF was just designed to be very bland in itself, but to me, this concept won't last very long in a very dynamic and engaging web.
In my opinion, the only reason it could never be as flexible as SMF's system (atleast right now) is obviously because SMF allows any code to be changed.
I'm satisfied with the overall level of flexibility that can be achieved.
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Features / You will have to revalidate in...
« on November 3rd, 2012, 01:39 AM »
Something I've been thinking about lately, while working on some other stuff: the admin panel asks you to re-enter your password periodically.
What if, at the top of page, it also said: "You will be asked to re-enter your password in 58 minutes" or however long it would be?
Disclaimer: we found an old Christmas pudding in the cupboard. Best Before April 2012 it said, but it smelled OK, tasted OK when we heated it up... but it was already steeped in rum, brandy and sherry before we got to it, and it's had over a year to mature (so it's pretty ripe and alcoholic where the fruit has also fermented a bit)... so I'm a bit tipsy and as such the idea might have been a bit nonsensical.
In other news, I really need to write that 'I was drunk while posting this' plugin.
What if, at the top of page, it also said: "You will be asked to re-enter your password in 58 minutes" or however long it would be?
Disclaimer: we found an old Christmas pudding in the cupboard. Best Before April 2012 it said, but it smelled OK, tasted OK when we heated it up... but it was already steeped in rum, brandy and sherry before we got to it, and it's had over a year to mature (so it's pretty ripe and alcoholic where the fruit has also fermented a bit)... so I'm a bit tipsy and as such the idea might have been a bit nonsensical.
In other news, I really need to write that 'I was drunk while posting this' plugin.
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The Pub / Re: About SMF and this project
« on November 3rd, 2012, 01:31 AM »
The biggest problem with SMF as it stands is that it had a 5 year development cycle, and other than a few modest features, it doesn't really know what to do with itself because it's put out the message "I'm a forum!" for so long that it doesn't appear to understand how to look any further.Quote Now you know why I asked people to knock it on the head. That, and certain very angry words exchanged in the last few days about something entirely unrelated to Wedge where people don't appear to be able to distinguish between 'getting things as a reward for donation' and 'paying for a service' as being really two parts of the same thing.
Also, I find it hilarious that SMF is not even listed at forumcomplaints.com, though that really shows how little people care about SMF, I think.
Thank you for your enthusiasm :) The plugin system is not as 'flexible' as SMF's but we believe it is more supportable and maintainable going forward :)
As for SMF itself, I am still surprised to see some volatility between the team and some of the members here that has taken place especially within SMF. The politics have gone on too long and to me it's just childish now.
Also, I find it hilarious that SMF is not even listed at forumcomplaints.com, though that really shows how little people care about SMF, I think.
Thank you for your enthusiasm :) The plugin system is not as 'flexible' as SMF's but we believe it is more supportable and maintainable going forward :)
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Other software / Discussing Wedge on simplemachines.org
« on November 3rd, 2012, 12:00 AM »
Please can I ask everyone to refrain from doing this.
I was informed today that a thread had been started over there, and subsequently moved by the moderators, because they're afraid of proper competition - never mind the 'rules'. (You all know as well as I do that if we moved tomorrow to an open licence, nothing would change)
So, please, before the pissing contest gets any further out of hand, drop the subject. Don't get them any more ammunition to piss with. We have more important things to do than worry about them and their little sandbox.
Pragmatically, their pissing match has probably already backfired, since more people read Chit Chat than they do the Forks board, but I don't want to give them any ability to cause any more trouble than they can safely get themselves into.
I was informed today that a thread had been started over there, and subsequently moved by the moderators, because they're afraid of proper competition - never mind the 'rules'. (You all know as well as I do that if we moved tomorrow to an open licence, nothing would change)
So, please, before the pissing contest gets any further out of hand, drop the subject. Don't get them any more ammunition to piss with. We have more important things to do than worry about them and their little sandbox.
Pragmatically, their pissing match has probably already backfired, since more people read Chit Chat than they do the Forks board, but I don't want to give them any ability to cause any more trouble than they can safely get themselves into.