Wedge

Here's the thing about threaded mode... by definition you really need a 'reply to this message' button which would cover that, not fudging it through anything else. It's going to get confusing if people press to reply to something and it isn't conjoined on the page (e.g. pressing a button only to have to go back to the bottom to reply)

A popup reply would solve that, even as an overlay of some kind.

This is ultimately why threaded mode causes trouble because of the multitude of UI parts to it.Isn't possible.Not from SMF's point of view. From the user's point of view, perhaps. They just want it all to work and don't have to care about it. It wasn't until 2.0/2.1 that SMF had anything like features that could support this, and even then SMF doesn't have enough to do it properly, not even in 2.1.Missing the point.

Mods add features, they have to remember to use the right markup - i.e. working to the theme. If you look back through everything we've done, mods are actually more constrained than themes are, by design, to account for this sort of problem. And even we haven't nailed it entirely.Which is exactly why they have to work together. Not be separate and glued together. They have to make some compromises, no matter how you might wish otherwise. And bear in mind, this isn't theoretical, most of this stuff works already. As shown on this very site - there are multiple plugins here that integrate just fine.What you're saying is what you've been saying since this conversation started, that the theme has total control. That's fine, all the time plugins don't want to do anything outlandish or in any way imaginative because then they're screwed because they're bound to what the theme actually lets them do. For it to work in any practical fashion there must be compromise, not total control in one direction or the other.

I wouldn't want to write plugins for your setup because they don't give me any freedom in how I design any of it. In your setup, for example, SimpleDesk would have had to use the same layout as given by anything else, which doesn't work because it had its own requirements in terms of content and presentation. This is why the plugin has to have *some* control over what it's doing.

Hmm, yeah.msg as a suffix works just fine for me for the main post structure, with blog for the main blog post and blog-msg for blog replies, as suggested.Thank you :) Mostly it's just about making a UI that doesn't feel put together by developers. There are a lot of things that are put in for the convenience of developers and not users.

And for the look of Wedge, you do it very well :) I would even go as far as saying that your flair for making it look good has rubbed off on me, I never used to worry about making things look good.

So this is why we need to remove it from subjects and display it *from the template* :lol:

No.That exclude the top 100. What about the top 1m?

I would definitely be inclined to cache it. Unless you need the data to be absolutely live (and honest I'm not sure you do), cache for probably 10 minutes would be enough and it will limit performance hurts in general.

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Revision: 1891
Author: arantor
Date: 02 February 2013 04:36:51
Message:
! Ban fixes. It can actually save the correct ban type now, and it should (in theory!!) check the state of bans when you change a ban so people who were hard banned, but should not be (for example) should then become unbanned. Needs infinitely more testing than I've given it thus far. (ManageBans.php)
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Modified : /trunk/Sources/ManageBans.php

That's not what I mean, will still have to go edit the source to remove that. Though personally I'd rather not have the [] anyway...