Nao

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Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #46, on July 25th, 2011, 11:04 AM »
Some people aren't too happy with it (like, it has no arrow/visual clue that the div can be expanded, except for the small part of it that shows up), but it can be improved.

Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #47, on July 25th, 2011, 01:41 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on July 25th, 2011, 11:04 AM
Some people aren't too happy with it (like, it has no arrow/visual clue that the div can be expanded, except for the small part of it that shows up), but it can be improved.
It can be expanded? :P


Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #49, on July 26th, 2011, 01:57 PM »
I am curious...since you are moving the user info in a topic from left to right[1], what about having it left and another post/reply in the right and so on? Sure it could be an add-on but I'm not happy as is right now, to be honest.  :-/
 1. I hope it's a option as I am at the fence of having it in the right



Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #52, on July 26th, 2011, 02:42 PM »
Ah, alternating it between left/right on each post (left on one post, right on the next)

Interesting idea, can't see it being useful on most forums though.

Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #53, on July 26th, 2011, 05:43 PM »
It's something that can be done, yes.

Ideally, I would use that to differentiate blog authors from commentators (commenters?). It's been seen done this way, at least!


Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #55, on July 26th, 2011, 07:03 PM »
I like the layout of the admin panel, but the rest of it looks terrible. Why does there have to be an icon for every link?

I also hope you guys plan to remove as many of the theme images as you can, most of that can be done with CSS now.


Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #56, on July 26th, 2011, 07:07 PM »
What exactly looks bad to you?
Can you do it better?

Theme images are mostly gone yes. They have been for a year. Possibly the very first change I made in Wedge.

Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #57, on July 26th, 2011, 08:25 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on July 26th, 2011, 07:07 PM
What exactly looks bad to you?
Can you do it better?

Theme images are mostly gone yes. They have been for a year. Possibly the very first change I made in Wedge.
Ok, I'm going by the screenshot.

It seems icons were added(to every link it seems), which I think are unnecessary. It creates clutter, and if you removed them it would look more "clean". I'm talking about all of them. Do you really need icons beside of "quote" and "modify". What about in the sidebarm in the titles, do they really need icons? What of the menu, links with a dropdown have 2 icons, one on each side.

Text strings could use some changing as well, similar to what you have already done here. They should be:
  • Show Unread Topics
  • Show Unread Replies

But then, there are alot of text strings that need to be changed if wedge is similar to SMF.

Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #58, on July 26th, 2011, 09:48 PM »
You're not making any sense. You say you like the admin panel with its dozens of icons then you say you don't like icons. Then you criticize our use of icons in the action area when smf does exactly the same.
Also, the action area was changed last week with the addition of a mini menu to give more space overall. But I'm sure you'll find fault in that, too. I do my best but some people always know better. Why don't you go ahead and try making a smf fork yourself? ::)

Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #59, on July 26th, 2011, 10:41 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on July 26th, 2011, 09:48 PM
You're not making any sense. You say you like the admin panel with its dozens of icons then you say you don't like icons. Then you criticize our use of icons in the action area when smf does exactly the same.
Also, the action area was changed last week with the addition of a mini menu to give more space overall. But I'm sure you'll find fault in that, too. I do my best but some people always know better. Why don't you go ahead and try making a smf fork yourself? ::)
I guess I'm wrong to voice my opinion here. I should have known better. Yes, SMF shouldn't use icons either, I never said they should. I have not seen the mini menu, so I have no opinion of that. So stop making assumptions please. I'm just leaving constructive criticism.

Yes, I like the admin panel better than SMF, it's looks "cleaner". However the post itself doesn't look cleaner than SMF. That is a matter of "my opinion". It's your fork, you make it how you want it. I won't bother you with petty details again. I don't want to sit here and get into an ego battle with you about the technically of my feedback.

I will just keep reminding myself of what you said in the beginning. You and Pete are designing the software to how you guys would like it, not how everyone else would like it, and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I was just excited about the development of wedge. It won't happen again, as I will keep my opinions to myself.



Re: Now with 97% more visuals!
« Reply #60, on July 27th, 2011, 09:38 AM »
Quote from Xarcell on July 26th, 2011, 10:41 PM
I guess I'm wrong to voice my opinion here. I should have known better.
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Yes, SMF shouldn't use icons either, I never said they should.
Well, good thing they do. Icons aren't only a 'lovely' thing to have. They have a point. They help spot the desired feature faster than without an icon.
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I have not seen the mini menu, so I have no opinion of that. So stop making assumptions please. I'm just leaving constructive criticism.
Constructive criticism, just so you know, is saying "I don't like this, and here's why". Unlike what you're saying: "it looks terrible." Without any further details on what you don't like-- sorry, what LOOKS terrible, because obviously everyone has to agree with you.
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I will just keep reminding myself of what you said in the beginning. You and Pete are designing the software to how you guys would like it, not how everyone else would like it, and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I was just excited about the development of wedge.
Looks like you are. "Admin panel looks good, EVERYTHING ELSE looks awful".
Way to go for positivism. When it comes to the visuals, Pete did the admin panel and I did 'everything else'. You know, the part that looks terribile. Of course you're not going to please me.  ::)
Posted: July 26th, 2011, 11:15 PM
Quote from Xarcell on July 26th, 2011, 08:25 PM
Text strings could use some changing as well, similar to what you have already done here. They should be:
  • Show Unread Topics
  • Show Unread Replies
As for this: 'New replies to...' is not supposed to stay this way. It's just that my local install (on which I do my dev) is running the French version. And the French version is 'optimized' for this width. I'll change the English version eventually.