Wedge

Trying to show people another point of view can be a good thing. Especially if they ask for it.
Trying to force them into seeing it your way (or even forcing them to acknowledge your point) will never work.

Nao is arrogant because he's french...

that's not the french flag...

That's not even the German flag.

Actually, it is...
http://www.flags.net/GERM.htm

Class boardindex located at the top of the file with a passed parameter of hook_exsists(). The vast majority of the code exsisting would remain the same, its just how/when the functions get called. On creation of the class, in the constructor, youd have the bool of a hook somewhere present. And in the first call to hook_exists(), you establish the hooks_present array. The boardindex class is made a slave to checking where hooks are and modifying its direction upon creation to include hooks where they are desired. And also, using this method of approach essentially cause memory that needs to be used to be used instead of loading a million things that may not be used. Any step not taken is a step faster.

In smf, the inclusion of many different files and calling functions within them is quite literally a psuedo class structure. The different approach is to use a real class structure like yall did with the db interface. Im quite certain that the main blocks of code that originally existed, still exists in the stripped mysql only code, and of course in the consteuctor i would assume is where the initial db connections are made and start functions called. In the way of processing and presentation that already exist, you basically have ssi header and footer filled with something in the middle. Each of those somethings wether it is forum, blog, admin center, can essentially be a class with both the ptocessing and presentation as properties and methods if the greater class.

With that said, when you throw in the ideal of modifiability, while alsi remaining fast and efficiant, classes gives the opertunity to call whole modified function version cinstructed while building the function with parts created from the default unless otherwise specified, ie a mod inclusion or change.

To implement this type of massive change throughout a software as massive as smf or wedge is with no doubt a paramount change, and virtually a entire rewrite of the software. Lots and lots of work. But there is a big but to consider. As things progress and change, the building blocks of such a change can be integrated through time one bit at a time. Now this does not mean this is the only way or even the best way in some cases, but it definitely is a different approach than what has been used before. Just cause it hasnt been done, doesnt mean that it is a bad way to do it. It just means it hasnt been done before.

Do not tell me how the flag of my goddamn country is :P

If it doesn't have something... Do. It. Yourself.

To look at smf as a whole, it is a compilation of many parts. The issue i see is that the software started out being a program written in perl originally, then converted to php, then converted to php again, with many changes along the way. In this process, many changes took place that did in fact make it some very good software. Herein lies the problem. Since its first breath of life as a perl cgi, it never was broken down to its basic elements and approached with fresh vision. It just simply was translated from one to the other. Thats what is holding back a lot if the programming world right now, two decades if rewriting and rewriting of programs that where first dreamed of long ago, without sitting down and really starting from scratch with a fresh and open mind if potential avenues that if currently used in the form they are truely workable, there would exist software that would be the apex of current technology, rather than old ideas made a little better.

Therefore, i wish yall luck, and i hope your vision is realized to the maximum of your dreams. I willing no longer contribute a single thing on this forum, concerning wedge, smf, or anything else, save this topic. I wont even read the responses to this thread. Yall can do with my words what you will. I got a billion lines of code and some serious theories concerning programming in all its states past and present. I got to get the shit out of my head and onto some type of tangible medium. if yall ban me, i spose ill start me a wordpress somewhere. Innovate, not imitate. I appreciate that to the very core of my being. As much as arantor is pissed, go for it man, impress yourself with your work, get pissed at me, fuel your fire. I want to see what you really can do.

Cool story, bro.

Fixed for you.