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The Pub / Re: The Cookie Law (in the UK at least)
« on April 21st, 2012, 12:58 AM »
Hmm,
So let me try and understand this some more.
Basically I have to display a notice that says we use cookies and what they do?
Do we have to give that user the option to turn the cookies off and remove them?
On my ISP's website they have at the bottom right of the site
Change cookie settings
with a few icons before it where on hover displays information about the cookies, and what each setting does with the option to turn some off but not all off.
So if I made some tiny icons like this, where on hover ( requires javascript ) even states on there.
but you can still find out the information without javascript.
After looking on the additional info it even states the ICC website so it looks like they are complying with this just by providing this option.
So if I put an icon with basic information of what cookies are applied and what they track, I would be covered?
Simple fact is.. I will have to apply this so I need some help on what todo..
Do they take into account that some users might not even be aware of what cookies the software they use on their website do?
So let me try and understand this some more.
Basically I have to display a notice that says we use cookies and what they do?
Do we have to give that user the option to turn the cookies off and remove them?
On my ISP's website they have at the bottom right of the site
Change cookie settings
with a few icons before it where on hover displays information about the cookies, and what each setting does with the option to turn some off but not all off.
So if I made some tiny icons like this, where on hover ( requires javascript ) even states on there.
but you can still find out the information without javascript.
After looking on the additional info it even states the ICC website so it looks like they are complying with this just by providing this option.
So if I put an icon with basic information of what cookies are applied and what they track, I would be covered?
Simple fact is.. I will have to apply this so I need some help on what todo..
Do they take into account that some users might not even be aware of what cookies the software they use on their website do?
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 21st, 2012, 12:26 AM »STAR are you a karma guy or something similar..? :P
I like Arantor, if he had some of my spliff, he would like me 2 lol :P
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Plugins / Re: Message view count.
« on April 21st, 2012, 12:23 AM »I don't think it would be any use, certainly not as a core feature. If anything I'd rather remove topic views before implementing this.
There are major performance considerations attached, namely that you'd *HAVE* to put this in its own database table otherwise the nightmare of updating the messages table (and preventing any other process even viewing threads while that update occurred, as default on MySQL prior to 5.5)[1]
Even then, you'd have to exclude search engines (which in itself is unreliable, just as it is excluded in theory from topic view counts), and even after that, the strong likelihood is that all you're going to see is a stream of increases over time, proportionate to the age of the message.
Ten messages each posted in close proximity to each other are going to have an almost horizontal (level) trend, messages further apart will get a proportionately higher spike, but that's all it'll tell you.
1. Tables in MySQL before 5.5 are defaulted to MyISAM, where an update to the table requires table-level locking, meaning nothing else can touch the table. You can use InnoDB in 5.0/5.1 and it's default in 5.5 but that's not widespread yet.
Probably would involve a lot more processing especially when adding filters for search engines and what not.
Also on the fact on one page you would have to increase the value for every message on that page rather than just 1 for the whole topic.
Unless there was an easier way lol.
I just thought it would be a good asset to have, but implementing it does seem a lil hard, and use up more resources.
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 21st, 2012, 12:15 AM »
Takes another toke of the spliff.
Hey I ain't addicted to weed I just like to chill now and then.. Its part of having fun G ;)
O.k. boss, I see your points.
You have talent I agree, but your perception on others, I think you can take a better view and understand that while you might be better at one thing there is certainly something that anyone is better than you at.
Most people see life like a competition. I see it like competition is better in numbers eeek eek I choked on my spliff lol.
Lighten up buddy ;)
If I can help you guys I will. Its as simple as that ;)
Hey I ain't addicted to weed I just like to chill now and then.. Its part of having fun G ;)
O.k. boss, I see your points.
You have talent I agree, but your perception on others, I think you can take a better view and understand that while you might be better at one thing there is certainly something that anyone is better than you at.
Most people see life like a competition. I see it like competition is better in numbers eeek eek I choked on my spliff lol.
Lighten up buddy ;)
If I can help you guys I will. Its as simple as that ;)
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Plugins / Message view count.
« on April 20th, 2012, 11:26 PM »
Hey,
I think a plugin to show how many views your message has had would be really cool.
I understand that you only have topic views at the moment ( I think )
But say I post a message after, then its good to see how many people have potentially viewed my message?
You think this would be a waste of space, or a good piece of information?
I mean you could display this information after the date or topic title.
I think it would be a good addition and could even consider core development of this.
What do you think?
I think a plugin to show how many views your message has had would be really cool.
I understand that you only have topic views at the moment ( I think )
But say I post a message after, then its good to see how many people have potentially viewed my message?
You think this would be a waste of space, or a good piece of information?
I mean you could display this information after the date or topic title.
I think it would be a good addition and could even consider core development of this.
What do you think?
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The Pub / Re: The Cookie Law (in the UK at least)
« on April 20th, 2012, 11:21 PM »Yes, because you're the site operator.Quote I live in the UK but my hosting servers are in the US, do I have to comply with these rules on my website?Yes, if the site is owned or operated within the EU, since this is an EU directive. If there is no EU-based management, there is no requirement to comply - at the present time, since I don't see how a user from within the EU can make a complaint to their respective data management body, when there's no way that can further on be enforced.Quote If we have visitors from the UK so we have to comply for them visitors?You're not the first person to ask this, and the answer is unequivocally NO.Quote Also isn't the notice on the registration agreement enough to say what cookies are stored on your computer and what they are used for?
This is the part that people do not follow. What you state in the registration is, frankly, irrelevant. You are supposed to obtain permission before setting ANY cookies. Even guests. The registration process would cover the more complex cookie, but it is not sufficient to cover for guests for whom a cookie is set straight away anyway.Yes, if you use a cookie. This is one of the points we've debated here: all sites that operate within the UK at least (and in time the EU) should comply, and a user can lodge a complaint with the ICO if they do not comply with the rules. (Or the respective country's equivalent)Quote Will this be applicable to voluntary small websites who can basically be bitten by a cookie law?You want to know the real fuck-up? This was introduced almost a year ago back in May 2011, but the ICO made it very clear that they would not enforce for a minimum of one year (and that date is fast approaching, it will be May 26th this year), however during that time we have been waiting for guidance from the ICO on how exactly this should work.Quote I would of never heard about this other than reading this website.
AND I LIVE IN THE UK!!! That's a but stupid init?That's not really satisfactory. The ICO's own site is so far the only site I have seen that actively follows the guidance.Quote I noticed on my ISP website they have information at the bottom of their website, like little icons that you don't even know what they are until you hover or click them which allow you to control the use of cookies they store.
It sounds ridiculous you know, for the fact I can be persecuted for something I was unaware of.
I still don't understand it and if I get bitten by it.
Sounds to me like the want to abolish cookies.
What else are they going todo. Do we need to start displaying HUGE notices explaining what information is cached on your PC also lol.
I can say that almost every website I know on the internet is not even close to complying with this.
For the fact of, how can you comply with something you don't even know about and don't even understand.
Should set myself up as a user suing all websites that do not comply with something and make a million lol.
I am sure with all these stupid laws its possible lol.
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 20th, 2012, 11:10 PM »
Hey Arantor.
I really don't understand your terminology when you go about converting URL.
The routes it will take to get it and what needs to be done to make it.
To make this work for topics and posts requires one extra row with the hash of the short URL.
All you have to do is on every topic display pull that row out again and apply that to the link you want to display for the short link.
Then okay navigating to it, so simple, 1st you would do a check to see if it is a short URL they have entered, then link that to the topic for navigation.
I mean you can spare one IF statement right?
You make it sound really complicated.To me it sounds like an easy process to do this.
I'm just having fun making scripts lol.
Hey Arantor, don't take offence o.k ;)
I spoken to you a few times, over at SMF when i required help and you always get a lil hot headed.. Chill man.
Passes a spliff :P
I really don't understand your terminology when you go about converting URL.
The routes it will take to get it and what needs to be done to make it.
To make this work for topics and posts requires one extra row with the hash of the short URL.
All you have to do is on every topic display pull that row out again and apply that to the link you want to display for the short link.
Then okay navigating to it, so simple, 1st you would do a check to see if it is a short URL they have entered, then link that to the topic for navigation.
I mean you can spare one IF statement right?
You make it sound really complicated.To me it sounds like an easy process to do this.
I'm just having fun making scripts lol.
Hey Arantor, don't take offence o.k ;)
I spoken to you a few times, over at SMF when i required help and you always get a lil hot headed.. Chill man.
Passes a spliff :P
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The Pub / Re: The Cookie Law (in the UK at least)
« on April 20th, 2012, 10:38 PM »
Hmm this has me wondering ?
I live in the UK but my hosting servers are in the US, do I have to comply with these rules on my website?
If we have visitors from the UK so we have to comply for them visitors?
Also isn't the notice on the registration agreement enough to say what cookies are stored on your computer and what they are used for?
As they are stated when you AGREE to sign up and then proceed to enter your details for registration.
I certainly don't understand this very much.
Will this be applicable to voluntary small websites who can basically be bitten by a cookie law?
I would of never heard about this other than reading this website.
AND I LIVE IN THE UK!!! That's a but stupid init?
I noticed on my ISP website they have information at the bottom of their website, like little icons that you don't even know what they are until you hover or click them which allow you to control the use of cookies they store.
I live in the UK but my hosting servers are in the US, do I have to comply with these rules on my website?
If we have visitors from the UK so we have to comply for them visitors?
Also isn't the notice on the registration agreement enough to say what cookies are stored on your computer and what they are used for?
As they are stated when you AGREE to sign up and then proceed to enter your details for registration.
I certainly don't understand this very much.
Will this be applicable to voluntary small websites who can basically be bitten by a cookie law?
I would of never heard about this other than reading this website.
AND I LIVE IN THE UK!!! That's a but stupid init?
I noticed on my ISP website they have information at the bottom of their website, like little icons that you don't even know what they are until you hover or click them which allow you to control the use of cookies they store.
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 17th, 2012, 01:27 AM »I can't really understand all this interest on URL shorteners.. You still won't remember something like g.co/hyT&tR SO WHY CHANGE THE URL??
1. There's no benefit in memorabilty
2. Your link relies on a 3rd party server (if they change their URLs structure OR their server goes down OR their company fails OR for whatever reason the link doesn't work there's nothing you can do
3. Loading is slower (also if it's the speedest server on earth the loading will be slower than the original link because of the redirection)..
In short: I can't find a reason for an external url shortner to exist. For internal... dunno.. I'm ok with PURLs.. :P
There will be no 3rd party access, or control. This is just the script I made that you can install yourself!
My idea was to connect an API automatically to every post that is made and so forth.
So you will have a Light URL that you can simply click and share with other users.
So the Light URL will be displayed at the top or bottom of the message and you can simply give to your friends and they can navigate to the post/topic
I understand that what you see right now is an input box and yeah can be like time wasting to keep making Light URL's yourself.
So the idea is to make it automatic and provide a Light URL for every topic/post made, using Nao's idea for the t/m to display if its a topic/message.
I mean if you have boards/sub boards and long topic names, it could be convenient.
Your right on the fact about, will the user use it? Is it convenient.
Well the option is there, some will, some won't.
It is sure a cleaner way to share links and looks better.
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 16th, 2012, 08:51 PM »I know that, but there are circumstances where the incorrect query string won't be passed to PHP properly at all on those servers.
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 16th, 2012, 08:40 PM »Because IIS (without special configuration) and some configurations of Apache will not work the way you expect them to.Quote from oOo--STAR--oOo on April 16th, 2012, 08:23 PM Feel free to correct me then on why?Quote from Arantor on April 16th, 2012, 08:18 PM Well done for quoting my post but missing my point. It won't work on 'all' webserver as you quote.
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 16th, 2012, 08:23 PM »Well done for quoting my post but missing my point. It won't work on 'all' webserver as you quote.
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 16th, 2012, 08:14 PM »Yay another URL shortener.
If you're planning to offer something whereby sites can generate their own shortened URLs that don't rely on l-url.com (so that site.com makes site.com/go/hash automatically), you're going to have *SO* much fun with all the mutant configurations out there that won't support your routing scheme properly, especially given how hard it is to actually set up site.com/go/hash instead of site.com/go.php?hash...
I made this script myself using the idea for not having to rely on apache or a certain server configuration to generate a small URL, that will redirect users. As I use nginx... Reason for making my own.
Obviously you won't be relying on l-url.com as it would be installed on wedge.com
That's just a random "cheap" domain I purchased for me to have fun on coding it.
Yes its another short url, but yes its also different, and doesn't require require apache.
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Archived fixes / Re: Profile error
« on April 16th, 2012, 10:23 AM »
I would like to confirm as well that when I visit my own profile I get the message
An error has occurred.
The user whose profile you are trying to view does not exist.
Edit:
I an unable to access any part of my profile, Forum Profile, Account Settings.
Only thing I can access is skin selector.
An error has occurred.
The user whose profile you are trying to view does not exist.
Edit:
I an unable to access any part of my profile, Forum Profile, Account Settings.
Only thing I can access is skin selector.
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Plugins / Re: Light URL Plugin Maybe?
« on April 16th, 2012, 10:12 AM »I think for auto-tiny urls it's best to offer something like:
Site.com/go/hash
Where hash would be a letter indicating content type (t for topic?) and the Id encoded to take less space (base64-like).
That would enable plugins to add more content types, too.
This can be installed in any directory and will give the short URL stating that directory.
So having like site.com/go/T-774h would suit, if I got it right lol.