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Other software / Re: Discussing Wedge on simplemachines.org
« on January 20th, 2013, 12:56 PM »
Quote from Suki on January 17th, 2013, 09:32 PM
Quote from emanuele on January 17th, 2013, 05:45 PM
I can't speak for the others. For what I'm concerned I didn't even thought of inform anyone...
This was out of pure courtesy really, but is not only that.
Yeah, can't say anything else than you are right...and that my character influence negatively many other aspects of my life, not just this specific situation.
Quote from Suki on January 17th, 2013, 09:32 PM
I constantly read about chats between you and Spuds regarding 2.1, I used to enter IRC and having my msn always open as much as possible, yes I talked to you fairly often but it was never in a "working environment", it was always as plain casual chatting. The same with Norv and IchBin.
Anything I could say now would just sound like a lame excuse. I'm really sorry you felt I didn't consider you a dev.
Quote from Suki on January 17th, 2013, 09:32 PM
Anyway, 2.1 development passed just in front of me like a train with no way to get up, I mean, yes I could have sent lots of pull requests I made completely blinded, dunno if that would helped that much, after all, you guys seemed to work just fine together.
Quote from Suki on January 18th, 2013, 05:11 AM
I was expecting something like "we can divide dev work, ones focusing on 2.x and others on 3.0" or some other idea, the point was to keep an open mind and be tolerant with the other side's ideas... but you simply don't seem to grasp that concept, It's what you want and nothing else, always what you want, all the time.
In that respect I would just say I hoped (thought) you would started working on the "next" SMF because you seemed interested in it.
2.1 at the time was pretty much ready for a kind of beta (at least it wouldn't be worst than other betas/RCs :P), there wasn't much to do except (boring, because it is) bug fixing.
I thought you and Fustrate could start moving things around in that sense and didn't poke you about 2.1 (also because I usually try not to poke anyone asking to do anything because I really believe in this kind of situations you do exactly what you want/like to do).

As I expected, it sounds like a lame excuse...
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Other software / Re: Discussing Elkarte on wedge.org
« on January 20th, 2013, 11:19 AM »
Quote from Nao on January 19th, 2013, 02:15 PM
https://github.com/elkarte/Elkarte/commit/babfac398abdb9b49ffb3e1d3d1631585e917ede

This looks a LOT like a fix I made to Wedge in rev 1847, just four days ago...
[...]
This sounds too coincidental to be true to me. Shouldn't I be the one who gets the thanks, not emanuele?
As Arantor said he gave me the original code (and he is thanked in the changelog, if you are the author I can change the changelog), then...heck I don't test my own code, but I always test someone else code! :P I found the buglet and fixed it (it was not that difficult either) and passed to Spuds. ;) (I didn't even notice the bug was fixed there too)
Quote from Nao on January 19th, 2013, 02:15 PM
So...
ema, I have no problems with giving you our alpha versions or whatever, I have absolutely no qualms with you or Elkarte and wish you all the best. I'd just rather be told if you already somehow have access to our SVN without telling.
No, please!! I'm already working on two quite similar (at least in terms of bugs, after some recent changes things are going to diverge quite quickly) codebases at the same time, the last thing I need is another codebase to play with!!! :angel:
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Other software / Re: Discussing Wedge on simplemachines.org
« on January 18th, 2013, 03:10 PM »
Again warning: I've not yet finished the topic...yeah I know I'm slow as hell... (reply 78 at the moment)
Quote from Arantor on January 12th, 2013, 05:48 AM
Ema's too nice for that
Quote from Kindred on January 12th, 2013, 06:03 AM
You are right... emanuele, as wonderful as he is, is too nice (might come from still being young and not as cynical as us old fogeys)
I'm not *so* young (30+), though it's true I don't have leadership experience (neither big attitude).
I'm either not so non-cynical (not sure what could be an antonym...) as you might think.[1][2]
It's true, though, that I'm way too kind.
And I can add I don't have the technical preparation that I myself would expect from a leader of a software development project.
 1. I'm so cynical that I'm still sitting by the side of the river waiting to see where all the opinions the team wants to give are (I posted something mostly ignored by the vast majority...well I got 1 answer), if I don't see any interest from those that are actually *very* interested in the matter I don't waste more of the minimum amount of time possible.
 2. I'm so cynical that I don't give a damn about the name. What I'm interested in is the code. I'm interested in improving it, make it nicer (that doesn't imply I write nice code, in fact it's the exact opposite :P), easier to use, etc. But the name can be SMF, Elkarte, Wedge, Dialogo, whatever as long as it is funny to work with the people involved.
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Other software / Re: Discussing Wedge on simplemachines.org
« on January 17th, 2013, 05:45 PM »
Quote from Suki on January 12th, 2013, 12:38 AM
And lastly, I left because no one actually saw me as a dev, even in this whole convo... I was never approached when the whole Norv thing imploded, never approached to do anything, heck, I wasn't even approached when Dialogo started... talking about feeling like a complete outkast...
I'm really sorry to hear you felt like that, because I always considered (and still consider) you a coder much better than me.
A while ago someone approached me asking if I were interested in be the developer (yes, the only because no one else was available I think) of a fork (not an existing one, one that never started AFAIK). I answered no, because I'm quite sure I don't have enough knowledge to start a fork from scratch [1], but you decided to start coding a forum from scratch [2]and I'm pretty sure you can do it.
Quote from Suki on January 12th, 2013, 12:38 AM
neither of both sides wanted me :P
I can't speak for the others. For what I'm concerned I didn't even thought of inform anyone...
I remember a chat session with Spuds (slightly after his resignations), with him asking what was a good name for a fork, I was kind of joking TBH [3] and the following day, when I fetched his repo I got a "repo doesn't exists" or similar message, went to his github account and discovered he renamed the repo and started the fork. Then I simply deleted the old remote, forked the repo at gitbhub and cloned it locally (and added Spuds's repo).
Quote from Suki on January 12th, 2013, 12:38 AM
so thats why I decided to work on my own, to let people know what I'm capable of...
And I wish you all the luck of the world!
I'm interested in seeing it taking shape and maybe one day I'll send a PR (as soon as I understand how OOP code works... :ph34r: ).
 1. and at that point you may wonder how can I think to move SMF if I don't have the knowledge to start a fork: good question, let me know the answer when you find it :P
 2. that is something I suggested you to do when you still were on the team ;)
 3. May be interesting the story behind the name "Dialogo": he posted an excerpt from wikipedia about Galileo related to his importance on simple machines and one the first thing that came to my mind was: Dialogo sopra i due massimi sistemi del mondo[1] that inspired (to me) a quite ironic parallelism with the events at sm.org: Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief Development Systems: "organization" centric and "development" centric
 1. Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems
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Other software / Re: Discussing Wedge on simplemachines.org
« on January 16th, 2013, 10:55 PM »
Quote from Kindred on January 16th, 2013, 09:36 PM
emanuele, regarding the DCO and the official switch to it...   I think that happened while I was resigned... didn't it?  and even prior to that, I was against the switch when it was first mentioned and only shut up when I was specifically told that the DCO would cover everything that the CLA covered.
The dev board I linked is accessible to anyone with a friends badge.
I cannot be sure, but I'm confident you were still SM member (there are several messages from you dated the same period were you are discussing about several organization (and organizational) matters) at the time.
The director that proposed the change started three topics: one for documentation, one for code and one for forum posts. You answered in one of them (forum posts) agreeing with what said in that topic (and only that), but not disagreeing with any other.
I personally opened a topic about the same time asking if to become a team member it was mandatory to sign a CLA and if the project was allowed to accept external contributions with a proper license from people not having signed a CLA. In that topic I can see from you a weak "we should not accept".
The secretary (at the time) started another discussion with subject "discontinuing of CLA's". I can find some disagreement in destroying CLAs (that I can share), but that's a completely different story.
Nothing else (yes, I went back in your profile and read all the relevant posts (17 pages from April 15th to June 7th) during the DCO-to-CLA discussion...speaking of stubborn... :P).

You resigned on March 22nd. I don't remember any discussion about CLA and DCO before May (I myself didn't even know what "sing-off" meant before May when I started singing-off my commits: for reference my first signed-off commit, everything before that date is not signed, also because the DCO was added on May 11).

So, unless you discussed all your concerns privately, no, I have no elements to say you were against DCO.
Quote from Kindred on January 16th, 2013, 09:36 PM
Anyway....   I (and several others) feel that it was misrepresented to us.   Remember (as people have pointed out to me a number of times in criticism of me)  It's not about the facts or even specifically what was said - it's about how it was (mis)understood and perceived...
Misunderstand is one thing, accuse people of being liars is another.
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Other software / Re: Discussing Wedge on simplemachines.org
« on January 16th, 2013, 08:46 PM »
Sorry to jump in without having finished to read the entire topic (I'm still at the reply number 38), but I want to re-clarify something I found.
Quote from Arantor on January 11th, 2013, 06:51 AM
I would disagree actually... Almost everyone who has been dev team the last few years started in the Support team. Even Norv.
...heck I skipped the support team! But I'm still pretty much the only one doing support on the Italian board...I'm pretty sure even Unknown did a *lot* of support and as far as I can see he was not that bad at it.
Quote from Kindred on January 11th, 2013, 02:47 PM
(and, in which case, there are several other issues that need to be taken up within the team regarding the switch to the DCO and lying about what that did/does when they requested it)
I already pointed you two times to a discussion (is available in the SM developers board) done by two BoD members before it was proposed the switch to the BoD (the post I linked is dated 11 May 2012, a link to that discussion was posted to the BoD attention in date May 16, and the proposal was approved by the BoD during the meeting of June), with the clear distinction of what a CLA is and what a DCO is. A small quote from that post:
Quote
With a DCO, there are no copyright assignments being made. The project could not change the license for the software without getting permission from all the code authors.
I think it's quite clear (it may be not perfectly correct, but the main idea is there).
So, would you please stop of publicly (I can pass over when you do it privately on a team board, but not when you do it publicly on another forum) accusing people of being liars when it's just that you didn't read a topic?

I'm really tempted to quote your words from another topic (The board voted. You had a chance to comment when the board was discussing and voting.), but it's probably not polite, so I will refrain.
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Archived fixes / Remove drafts
« on January 7th, 2013, 05:36 PM »
Searched and not found, so reporting it.

Deleting a single draft doesn't seem to work.

Reproduce:
* write a post/PM
* save ad draft
* go to the draft page in your profile
* click "remove draft"
* confirm with "ok"
=> nothing happens (tested with Opera, so it may even be the browser :angel: )
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Archived fixes / Re: Non-static method weMoDe::isMobile()
« on November 29th, 2012, 07:50 PM »
Quote from Nao on November 28th, 2012, 11:19 AM
It only shows up on first load because the contents of the function is cached for the duration of the session.
Yep, I imagined that.
Quote from Nao on November 28th, 2012, 11:19 AM
Which reminds me that last week I had planned to rewrite detectBrowser() into a part of this object... To benefit from the session cache ;)
Then I stopped midway through it, because of cache filename considerations... Which have yet to be addressed. -_-
I think I know (at least part of) the feeling... :P
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Test board / may I?
« on November 29th, 2012, 12:54 PM »
It seems I cannot edit my posts..is it normal?

Oh no, it was just boards where I don't have permissions to edit.
Never mind.
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Archived fixes / Non-static method weMoDe::isMobile()
« on November 28th, 2012, 10:10 AM »
Search doesn't give any result so I assume it has not yet been reported.
Not sure if it is useful to report either, but better have it twice rather than none. :P

Code: [Select]
Strict Standards: Non-static method weMoDe::isMobile() should not be called statically in /home/xxxxxx/www/xxxxxx/wedge/Sources/Load.php on line 378
in:
http://wedge.org/license/
the first time the page is loaded (easy to see using private tabs).
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Development blog / Re: It only took two guys two years...
« on November 2nd, 2012, 04:21 PM »
Good news!
Congratulations!
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The Pub / Re: Getting ready for an alpha release: CSS fixes
« on September 14th, 2012, 06:02 PM »
Quote from Nao on September 13th, 2012, 05:24 PM
- Most forums have a very complicated layout for topic pages, with much useless information. I did my best to push all that 'useless' stuff to the sidebar -- because removing it wasn't a solution either. It makes topics more user-friendly overall. And more work can be done on that...
That is exactly the reason I suggested a toggle: I already know that most of the things that are (and could be) in the sidebar on *any* forum are *for me* useless (dunno, most likely I have a rather peculiar way to use forums). The only one that from time to time *I* use is "Unread replies".
Quote from Nao on September 13th, 2012, 05:24 PM
- Readability of main text content. Because long lines make it harder to 'catch' the next line when reading, it's always recommended to do no more than 50-100 characters per line, I took the upper one and limited my widths to about 600 to 800 pixels in width on all my designs.
Taking the 1st line of the 1st message on this page:
800px: 74 chars
1024px:  63 chars
1024px (without sb): 102 chars
So in a typical 1024px screen the message area appears narrower than on a 800px (I know, I'm moving from a general statement to an actual example...I should have used the example first :P).

Funny enough the message area (that I think is the most important part of a topic) in a 1024x is 450px, that is less than half the size of the screen (44%) and the space actually filled with text is only ~386ps (38%, a bit more than one third of the screen size).
Quote from Nao on September 13th, 2012, 05:24 PM
Because today's displays can have largely varying widths (up from 2000px+ on Retina screens down to 320- on mobile phones), it's best to hide the sidebar on smaller displays, and have it in wider displays to give some additional content that would help eliminate the feeling that you're reading a single column of a regular paper if you're on a 600px wide column in a 2000px wide window... See what I mean.
That would work if the sidebar is visible for the entire length of the page, but at the moment is visible just in the first screen, going down the topic the result is a single narrow column (16 page-down long against 12 without sb)...and your signature is too wide for a 1024px monitor. ;)
From 1152px and up (provided that the forum is 100% wide) it should work. That said: I still hate all the empty space on the right. :P
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The Pub / Re: Getting ready for an alpha release: CSS fixes
« on September 13th, 2012, 09:50 AM »
* emanuele finds sidebars useless...but that's not the point of the topic... :P (even though...a collapse button somewhere? :angel: )
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The Pub / Re : Re: More thoughts on SMF 2.1
« on August 27th, 2012, 09:20 AM »
Quote from Nao on August 25th, 2012, 11:46 PM
Main problem with the one on the right is that without the text, there's no association with the word Wedge.
The one on the left implies both 'W' and 'E', depending on the position of your head ;)
Or "M"...don't know why but "M" is the first letter that comes to my mind when I look at it.
And in terms of color it reminds of: http://socialeyezer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/stumbleupon.jpg (neither a good or a bad thing ;))
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Other software / Re: More thoughts on SMF 2.1
« on August 18th, 2012, 05:53 PM »
Quote from Nao on August 17th, 2012, 11:23 PM
Oh, if someone at SMF is reading... I only had a very quick look at the source code, but even in less than a minute I managed to stumble upon a typo in a variable name :P 'bbcode_handling' is written as 'bbcode_hanlding'... Several times ;)
At least I've been consistent: I wrote all of them wrong!
Power of copy and paste! :angel:

I should change keyboard...as well as head. -_-