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Other software / Re: Discussing Wedge on simplemachines.org
« on January 12th, 2013, 04:41 AM »
I fail to realize SMF having no directions, no head, no path to follow and overall no future beyond the 2.1 scope can be labeled as "overreacting, misunderstandings and been too stubborn"...
At least for me and my point of view, those misunderstandings are the least of your problems... you have no plans, no future, no devs and whats worse, you refuse to treat SMF as an open source project where meritocracy plays an important role and where the dev community construct the software and the team is there to conduct that dev community.
Let me refresh your mind then, there is or there was a topic in Marketing board which you started, out of pure feeling of the moment if you want, where you stated you wanted to replace the current devs or at least the ones who were creating drama at that moment, with new people ready to work under what you think is the best approach for SMF. An approach that just doesn't work...
The reason why 2.1 is where it is is not because of your plan...
Is because Spuds and Ema endured a lot of things for the sake of releasing 2.1...
Is because SMF did have an incredible luck finding those 2.
There was a straight of luck, nothing else, nothing more, an opportunity that will only repeat once in a million years, thats how incredible lucky you were when Spuds and Ema both at the same time, decided to work on 2.1 and had the will and had the knoloae and had the desire and had the patience, all at the same time... without the combination of all those factors, there wouldn't be a 2.1, there wouldn't be any SM... thats how important devs are but you keep treating them as cattle...
Please do search my comments in team boards, find the comment I made months ago about how important Spuds and Ema were for SM (and how you took my comment so lightly...) and that the whole white elephant rely on those 2 fragile shoulders and when the day come when they finally can't stand that heavy load, your holy organization will tremble... don't want to say I told you so because what I said was nothing new and I actually feel bad that my words become true as I didn't want to but was inevitable...
I'm sorry but your prettified comments here don't match your words inside team boards... gotta be congruent or at least show half the predetermination you show here... because you didn't show me any sighs of predetermination when I told my plans for SMF... dunno if its because this is a public board or neutral ground or what, don't care either because as soon as you go back to private boards, you completely change your speech.
You say you are not in charge and yet you act as someone who is in charge... patronizing everything and everyone who dares to have a different opinion, didn't you mentioned that you know exactly how I think (and act) because you have managed paid codemonkeys for 20-something years?
Heres a protip: $paidDev != $opensourceDev since AFAIK, SMF doesn't have any paid devs (I remember I do joked about outsourcing the dev team to China and as things currently are, it wouldn't surprise me if the holy SM heads decide to do that...), your gazillion years of experience with paid codemonkeys means absolutely 0 on an open source organization, please stop trying to force that mentality on SMF, you are hurting the project more than you are helping it...
All those words I said months ago are becoming a reality now... as sad as that statement is.
At least for me and my point of view, those misunderstandings are the least of your problems... you have no plans, no future, no devs and whats worse, you refuse to treat SMF as an open source project where meritocracy plays an important role and where the dev community construct the software and the team is there to conduct that dev community.
Let me refresh your mind then, there is or there was a topic in Marketing board which you started, out of pure feeling of the moment if you want, where you stated you wanted to replace the current devs or at least the ones who were creating drama at that moment, with new people ready to work under what you think is the best approach for SMF. An approach that just doesn't work...
The reason why 2.1 is where it is is not because of your plan...
Is because Spuds and Ema endured a lot of things for the sake of releasing 2.1...
Is because SMF did have an incredible luck finding those 2.
There was a straight of luck, nothing else, nothing more, an opportunity that will only repeat once in a million years, thats how incredible lucky you were when Spuds and Ema both at the same time, decided to work on 2.1 and had the will and had the knoloae and had the desire and had the patience, all at the same time... without the combination of all those factors, there wouldn't be a 2.1, there wouldn't be any SM... thats how important devs are but you keep treating them as cattle...
Please do search my comments in team boards, find the comment I made months ago about how important Spuds and Ema were for SM (and how you took my comment so lightly...) and that the whole white elephant rely on those 2 fragile shoulders and when the day come when they finally can't stand that heavy load, your holy organization will tremble... don't want to say I told you so because what I said was nothing new and I actually feel bad that my words become true as I didn't want to but was inevitable...
I'm sorry but your prettified comments here don't match your words inside team boards... gotta be congruent or at least show half the predetermination you show here... because you didn't show me any sighs of predetermination when I told my plans for SMF... dunno if its because this is a public board or neutral ground or what, don't care either because as soon as you go back to private boards, you completely change your speech.
You say you are not in charge and yet you act as someone who is in charge... patronizing everything and everyone who dares to have a different opinion, didn't you mentioned that you know exactly how I think (and act) because you have managed paid codemonkeys for 20-something years?
Heres a protip: $paidDev != $opensourceDev since AFAIK, SMF doesn't have any paid devs (I remember I do joked about outsourcing the dev team to China and as things currently are, it wouldn't surprise me if the holy SM heads decide to do that...), your gazillion years of experience with paid codemonkeys means absolutely 0 on an open source organization, please stop trying to force that mentality on SMF, you are hurting the project more than you are helping it...
All those words I said months ago are becoming a reality now... as sad as that statement is.
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Other software / Re: Discussing Wedge on simplemachines.org
« on January 12th, 2013, 12:38 AM »
I usually don't like to vent stuff but I will not allow people to go talking so lightly about my persona.Quote from Kindred on January 11th, 2013, 05:30 AM Yes... we all are a buch of egocentric bastards:
The vid is hilarious... I love Steve Nash :D
BTW, I didn't left because of supporting Norv... I left because you keep trying to run things like a corporation and fail to realize that SMF is an open source project now.
I left because you only want to survive by releasing 2..2, 2.3, 2.4 ad so on... going around in circles with the same old codebase that cannot be expanded any further (do note that I said "expanded" and not "refactored").
i left because, what did you call me? oh yeah, a poisonous people and you were suppose to replace me with some other person who can work under your command.. I'm still waiting as I'm eager to meet my replacement :P
And lastly, I left because no one actually saw me as a dev, even in this whole convo... I was never approached when the whole Norv thing imploded, never approached to do anything, heck, I wasn't even approached when Dialogo started... talking about feeling like a complete outkast... neither of both sides wanted me :P so thats why I decided to work on my own, to let people know what I'm capable of...
I didn't left because I think I'm better than you... or anyone else in the team either...
I didn't left because I don't want everyone to say how I should code (I lost count on how many times I told everyone that I was OK with SMF team members telling me what to do. do note I said SMF and not SM ;) )
I tried to give SMF some directions (currently there is none...), I was fully aware that SMF couldn't survive my plan, however, I also gave ideas on how to reduce that long period of time... this wasn't revolutionary ideas... all of then was plain and simple open source ideas that has been used by countless of projects for decades... what did I get? You're wrong, not even a feasible explanation on why I was suppose to be wrong at...
SMF is dead, the only capable person is there out of pity, I told you a gazillion times how to attract new external blood, how to be more open, how to embrace a truly open source path but you keep thinking SM needs to control everything and every aspect...
The way you envisioned further development of the 2.0 code will effectively gonna place SMF in an "undead" phase, not dead but not live either, just hanging around, viewing the years pass by, going nowhere...
I just wanted to clear that out as I hate people talking a one side story...
Oh, BTW, I started on support, moved to Cust, did a lot of documentation in Spanish, a good portion of the Spanish_latin language was done by me... so yeah, I'm not a codemonkey only nor am I the egocentric bastard you think all devs are...
and, as far as I know, no one on the team has done so since then either. So, my only conclusion as to why the recent devs have left is that either they are childish gits who are so full of themselves that they can not conceive that anyone should be able to even suggest that there might be a good idea outside of their own minds (a possibility, I admit)... or (which is more likely) the whole thing is based on a series of misunderstandings and overreactions which folks are either too embarrassed or too stubborn to discuss.
The vid is hilarious... I love Steve Nash :D
BTW, I didn't left because of supporting Norv... I left because you keep trying to run things like a corporation and fail to realize that SMF is an open source project now.
I left because you only want to survive by releasing 2..2, 2.3, 2.4 ad so on... going around in circles with the same old codebase that cannot be expanded any further (do note that I said "expanded" and not "refactored").
i left because, what did you call me? oh yeah, a poisonous people and you were suppose to replace me with some other person who can work under your command.. I'm still waiting as I'm eager to meet my replacement :P
And lastly, I left because no one actually saw me as a dev, even in this whole convo... I was never approached when the whole Norv thing imploded, never approached to do anything, heck, I wasn't even approached when Dialogo started... talking about feeling like a complete outkast... neither of both sides wanted me :P so thats why I decided to work on my own, to let people know what I'm capable of...
I didn't left because I think I'm better than you... or anyone else in the team either...
I didn't left because I don't want everyone to say how I should code (I lost count on how many times I told everyone that I was OK with SMF team members telling me what to do. do note I said SMF and not SM ;) )
I tried to give SMF some directions (currently there is none...), I was fully aware that SMF couldn't survive my plan, however, I also gave ideas on how to reduce that long period of time... this wasn't revolutionary ideas... all of then was plain and simple open source ideas that has been used by countless of projects for decades... what did I get? You're wrong, not even a feasible explanation on why I was suppose to be wrong at...
SMF is dead, the only capable person is there out of pity, I told you a gazillion times how to attract new external blood, how to be more open, how to embrace a truly open source path but you keep thinking SM needs to control everything and every aspect...
The way you envisioned further development of the 2.0 code will effectively gonna place SMF in an "undead" phase, not dead but not live either, just hanging around, viewing the years pass by, going nowhere...
I just wanted to clear that out as I hate people talking a one side story...
Oh, BTW, I started on support, moved to Cust, did a lot of documentation in Spanish, a good portion of the Spanish_latin language was done by me... so yeah, I'm not a codemonkey only nor am I the egocentric bastard you think all devs are...