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The Pub / Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
« on January 19th, 2013, 12:41 AM »I haven't even really looking at the applications thus far, if I'm honest. I just saw that a bunch of people had posted, I just reiterated what I'd already said.
The last few days I've been wrangling with a lot of stuff, some of which has been laid bare >_<
But a lot of what I've said still stands - I would personally rather have people who contribute along the way and demonstrate a commitment to contribute rather than who request access to test it as it was at a fixed milestone; if you're just interested in seeing the software... we run it right here. There's little that an alpha could show you that you can't see here, because pretty much every new feature that's in Wedge and not in SMF is visible here, either from screenshots or it's user facing.
If you're seeing it as 'just replying to every thread', you've missed the point somewhat, I feel. It's not about gaining trust, it's demonstrating some commitment to actually contribute meaningful feedback - as you may or may not have noticed, already several people who got access didn't bother to reply much, not even to say 'hey, still here just busy'.
I deliberately go out and ask for feedback as new things get added, to gauge what users want and how beneficial it will be to them.
It's your baby so I have no rights and I (believe me) understand the type of person you describe, but I hope you can empathise that as someone who knows he is not one of those people; the frustration of throwing my name into a hat and hoping to be noticed via posting a lot. I'm sure that comes across as inappropriately forceful from the lips of a new entry but I'm nothing if not honest and forthright.
In my mind it's not a question of why I want access in order to provide feedback of a good standard, rather why not?
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The Pub / Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
« on January 19th, 2013, 12:26 AM »I would also remind everyone of what I said in http://wedge.org/pub/7623/looking-for-volunteers-to-test-the-wedge-private-alpha/msg284142/#msg284142
Ignore any $2 mentions for now, that's a known bug.
If I felt that I could contribute in a meaningful way without having access to the alpha then I'd agree, but anyone can spend time replying to every thread to try to gain your trust, I'd prefer to have the ability to provide some meat to those replies and that will be infinitely more useful to the both of us.
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The Pub / Re: Looking for volunteers to test the Wedge private alpha!
« on January 18th, 2013, 01:44 AM »1 - How long have you been a SMF user?
In addition, I used to be quite heavy into the development side of forums a long time ago (I don't know how long you guys go back?) and whilst I got out of that game an equally long time ago due to a mixture of politics and changes, my rusty eyes will have no problem examining the innards without being rebuffed. I'm also well versed in the general things you note in your post so there's no worry with regards to messing with phpmyadmin and the like,
2 - If you're planning to use Wedge on a live forum, post its URL.
My apologies for being so ambiguous but the new site has yet to be announced and I'd prefer to keep it on the low for the time being, I'd be happy to share my current and future projects with either the developers or the (presumably) small group of testers you currently have if you saw fit to include me.
3 - How much daily time you think you can devote to testing Wedge.
I recognise that Wedge is not ready for primetime or a production site, but the timing is perfect for what I need it for at present. I see no reason why it couldn't run in tandem with the site even post-launch for staffers and select members, which is something I'd personally like to do in order to stay alongside and assist in the development of Wedge going forward.
Either way, it will continue to be tested by myself privately regardless.
4 - Is there a feature in Wedge that you're most interested in?
I can't really vocalise anything specific but I'm quite excited by what I've seen so far and I'm very eager to dive in. I find the potential business model Arantor mentioned on another site interesting and possibly revolutionary when paired with your plugin system, however this has less to do with the software itself. I believe my intentioned use for the Alpha will allow me to see all aspects of your baby and as a result produce actionable feedback from me to you.
5 - If you're a hot young lady, post a picture of you, preferably on a boat.
I understand that the current Alpha up for download is older and less functional but I'd love to get my hands on it anyway to get a grasp of things before the new one later in the month, hopefully you can see my unbridled desire to get in on the ground floor here and give me the badge so that I can get started and get involved.