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Features / Re: Ditching themes?
« on April 30th, 2011, 07:39 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 30th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Heh, well suffice to say that it takes some of the elegance of Python source and applies that to CSS, such that things are much more visually distinct and approachable at a glance than CSS normally is.

But of course since none of the browsers support it, it has to be processed first.
Not read python ever but one of my friend is a big fan of it.

Sass seems to be quite a fun thing from what I've read over here.
Quote from Nao/Gilles on April 30th, 2011, 06:43 PM
And in the admin area -- retrieve variables from the wecss files, list them ("$main_font", etc.), and offer to overwrite them. If one of them is detected to be a color variable ("rgba(0,0,0, .5)", etc.), we could also offer a color wheel to pick a new one.
You can use a nice JS color picker to offer colors.
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@Joker> Actually it's only Sass-style by inspiration. I read about Sass in .net Magazine last January, loved how their idea was going further than my original plans for a css preparser, which encouraged me to do a PHP version of it. In the end it hasn't got half of the Sass features, and it's certainly not as elegant, but it's much, much faster, and at least you don't have to remember 50 different functions eheh. Plus, my implementation has some cool extra features that no other css preparsers have. (Notably the 'final' keyword which is important for object oriented programming. You'll see when I publish the feature list.)
Will wait to see your feature list. css preparser, can you explain a bit that what exactly is that?
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Here's a sample from my index.css code:

Code: [Select]
section.block extends .wrc
overflow: hidden
header extends .wehead
font-weight: 700
padding: 3px 12px
border-radius: 8px 8px 0 0
margin: -0.9em -1.2em 1em
footer extends .wefoot
padding: 3px 12px
border-radius: 0 0 8px 8px
margin: .5em -1.2em -0.9em
dl.settings
margin, padding: 0

Fun, eh? :)
Lol that seems to be a great thing which will surely remove a lot of hassles.
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Features / Re: Ditching themes?
« on April 30th, 2011, 05:30 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 30th, 2011, 05:28 PM
It's a LOT more complex than that. There are no normal CSS files in Wedge, they are all Sass type files now, so you'd have to edit them, recache them then re-serve them.
Oh not much familiar with the wedge code. Even have to search about sass file types also :P.
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Features / Re: Ditching themes?
« on April 30th, 2011, 05:26 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 30th, 2011, 05:03 PM
Though we're planning on making it so that editing a theme affects mods less and vice versa.
How much hard you try but there will be a point where mods will affect theme and some hard situations might arise.
Quote from Nao/Gilles on April 30th, 2011, 05:18 PM
I'm not much of a fan of noob-friendly CSS editing, personally. Tempted to get rid of that editor in the admin area. As for allowing people to set default colors for a styling, hmm... I guess it's doable, but only through using CSS variables. It can be done, but really, I imagine it would complicate things for Wedge at compilation time. Maybe by allowing to override only the actual CSS variables in the code...
I myself has never used the editor in admin area(talking about the one in SMF), it makes things to look much more complicated to me.
You can create a script which can refresh the css cache if the user has made changes in css through admin panel.


One more suggestion if you people think of going with the above suggestion that do create backup css files so that even if one wants to have the old styling back he can simply get it back from backup css file.


Edit - Just saw Arantor's reply
Arantor why don't you make a css code highlighter in admin panel itself so that it will be much easier to read the css code.
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Features / Re: Ditching themes?
« on April 30th, 2011, 05:03 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on April 30th, 2011, 12:51 PM
Well right now it's very easy to change using an add-type styling.
Yup seen it on some sites also. My main point was that even if a mod has made changes in the template then also the admin will be having a very flexible option of changing his forum colors.
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Features / Re: Ditching themes?
« on April 30th, 2011, 12:26 PM »
First of all hello to everyone,

Nao as we can see in SMF itself most themes are curve based with some variation in images, so why not create a default theme using as less images as possible and then creating a section in admin panel where the admin can make the color variations by just putting color hex codes.

So it will provide a nice platform to admins to play with there themes and modify there forum looks as they want in very easy manner.

Just a suggestion :).