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Those devs thought the BSD license was a better idea than the "old SMF" license, for a number of reasons. They were the "they" who made that change happen. They were SMF team members and former SMF team members.

The BSD license is the single standard license at simplemachines.org. The old license is only attached to deprecated versions of SMF.

Change is difficult, but it happens.

I think the ex-devs were right to insist on the change to BSD. At this point in time, I think it will be a positive change for the SMF community and SMF. SMF's old license was chosen at the moment YaBB SE was becoming SMF, because of the team's concern over a real case of someone taking YaBB SE code, repackaging it without attribution, and including it in a for-pay package. It seemed like the best choice to the team at the time.

I know the move to an open SVN has been slower than the SMF dev team, SMF afficionados, or any open-source advocate, would like to see. That's a valid criticism. There is some cultural change required. It's one thing to be in favor of a BSD license.  It's another to be used to working in a more open environment.  And the SMF team is reluctant to store project stuff on "somebody else's server" because of issues from the YaBB SE days.

Change comes slowly.

I'd like to see everybody get along, of course. But I know I'm not going to get everybody to see eye-to-eye, much as I'd like to.

Yes, of course, I agree that it is courtesy to communicate. "Hey, I love this bit, and want to use it". Whether the two devs are currently feeling "friendly" or not.  Courtesy. Civility.

I assume, of course, that anyone who has put a BSD license on the code has already explicitly expressed their perfect willingness to allow anyone at all to lift a function or class wholesale, as long as they follow the letter (and spirit?) of the license agreement. That's what the open source license is for.

I'm pretty new at SMF.  So I may be making some poor assumptions. I assume "everybody" knew the BSD license meant forking was inevitable, and healthy, and that SMF itself will benefit from what the the fork teams learn, and even from reading/using bits of open source code.

Hello Nightwish!

Your fork looks promissing.  It is great to see the work you are doing. Every good idea is a benefit to the entire SMF community.  I'm glad you've made your work open source, too. You can be sure that other devs will be looking to use and build on your good ideas.

That is progress!

fieldset?

ARG,

I'm glad to hear your username/password are OK.

I've had that "logged out" experience before, myself -- usually during spammer floods. It is really annoying.
I don't think that the cause for has anything to do with you directly.

Are you still having the problem? If so, you could try emailing the times at which this occurs to info@simplemachines.org. I know the site and server team are always working hard to let members in while keeping the bad bots out, but things don't always work perfectly.

Of course, the SMF team is not perfect. Nor are the SMF servers. Or the SMF site. Or the SMF software. The team does try awfully hard, though.

I think K@ and Sinan are both much missed at simplemachines.org
That's what I think.

I miss Nao and Arantor at simplemachines.org, too.

I don't know that "floating topics" has another name.

When I brought the idea up, at Jaelta, it didn't gain much traction.

http://yourasoft.org/forum/index.php?topic=1492.msg29315#msg29315

But, then, I wasn't very clear on what I was talking about, either, was I?