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Title: 2.0 in download area
Post by: billy2 on June 11th, 2011, 10:47 PM

go for it Wedge
:lol:

Has the agreement changed??
http://www.simplemachines.org/about/smf/license.php

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: becometa on June 11th, 2011, 10:51 PM

yep, at this moment the full install package figures as the small update and vice versa :whistle:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Drunken Clam on June 11th, 2011, 11:02 PM

Yet still, their own website refers to Simple Machines LLC
*sigh*
-_-

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Nao on June 11th, 2011, 11:42 PM

I guess Wedge is no longer 'illegal', then?

Well, they have no reason to prevent us from adding a link in our signatures any longer... :whistle:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 12:09 AM

And they still managed to fuck up the release with the wrong links and stuff. Bravo.

Still, this means I can do one last sync, a final compare and kiss them goodbye.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Nao on June 12th, 2011, 12:24 AM

Yay!

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on June 12th, 2011, 01:32 AM

Finally...!

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 01:33 AM

The final sync is done, so I just need to breeze through the files and verify that we got everything we were supposed to get and nothing that predates their licence crap remaining.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Nao on June 12th, 2011, 01:53 AM

And I can't even browse that... :(

(I lost my repositoryhosting password in the crash.)

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 01:54 AM

Let me know if you want me to reset it for you.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Nao on June 12th, 2011, 01:57 AM

Would be nice, yes ;)

Off to bed myself.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Masterd on June 12th, 2011, 11:06 AM

Finally this day came. :D

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Dragooon on June 12th, 2011, 12:03 PM

Now it is not mandatory to maintain their copyright notice, is it?

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: CJ Jackson on June 12th, 2011, 12:15 PM

Nice, now you can do anything with it, but you can't use the name SMF (or it contributors) to promote Wedge without their permission.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 01:07 PM

That's mostly a non issue actually - we couldn't have done so before either anyway because it's a trademark and TM usage rules govern that too.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 01:22 PM

In other news, I'm honestly curious to see how many mod authors upgrade their mods to 2.0 final.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: snoopy-virtual on June 12th, 2011, 03:45 PM

I don't think I will myself.

In one of them I already told them to stop asking for new features because I don't think I am going to continue developing it for SMF, as I normally don't have time to write code for software I don't use:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=283309.msg3038030#msg3038030

So maybe I will just wait until somebody ask and I will use the opportunity to answer again something similar. :eheh:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 03:50 PM

With any luck, updating your mods for Wedge should be a one-off process since, with any luck, add-ons will be much more stable between versions :)

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: billy2 on June 12th, 2011, 04:19 PM

Well, thats the last time I do an upgrade and move folders in one go ...............whilst trollied.
You live and learn!!

:)

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 12th, 2011, 04:22 PM

I keep most of my sites pretty low maintenance by not using many mods but the one site is going to be a pain for that, it took me a day and a half to perform the Rc3 to RC5 upgrade seeing how I did it without taking the site offline, and I bet the final upgrade will be similar too :/

Still, after that, one more jump to Wedge...

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: snoopy-virtual on June 12th, 2011, 11:17 PM

Quote from snoopy-virtual on June 12th, 2011, 03:45 PM

So maybe I will just wait until somebody ask and I will use the opportunity to answer again something similar. :eheh:

See. They are already asking (I knew it):

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=366399.msg3071573#msg3071573

You may notice I manage to squeeze the word Wedge 7 times while answering :niark:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: live627 on June 12th, 2011, 11:56 PM

There was one point I felt I had to answer.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Stef on June 13th, 2011, 12:03 AM

I count the word wedge 25 time`s on smf.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 13th, 2011, 12:10 AM

Quote from live627 on June 12th, 2011, 11:56 PM

There was one point I felt I had to answer.

Correct, at least that's the plan - no sense writing two importer libraries when they already wrote one... :whistle:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: snoopy-virtual on June 13th, 2011, 01:02 AM

As I was saying there, maybe I will do that importer or maybe not.

Once I have both importers in my hands (the one from 1.1.x to 2.0 and the one from 2.0 to Wedge) I will check in one of my forums what is easier for me.

It also will depend on the amount of people with the same problem I have. (A lot of forums in 1.1.x). We will see.

Posted: June 13th, 2011, 01:01 AM

Quote from Stef on June 13th, 2011, 12:03 AM

I count the word wedge 25 time`s on smf.

Only 25 times? I am sure I have written that word there more than 25 times myself. :lol:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: busterone on June 13th, 2011, 05:18 AM

I am sure that number will increase now. :eheh:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: b4pjoe on June 13th, 2011, 05:21 AM

Just an FYI, httpBL installs and runs fine in 2.0 Final. :cool:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: busterone on June 13th, 2011, 05:28 AM

I can confirm that and Stop Spammer is working as well. It may have been something in my forum, but I did have to make one manual edit to get httpBL to install. It was one line in /Sources/managepermissions.php The installer could not find

Code: [Select]

'view_stats' => array(false, 'general', 'view_basic_info'),

, but upon looking at the file, it was there.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: b4pjoe on June 13th, 2011, 05:36 AM

Quote from busterone on June 13th, 2011, 05:28 AM

I can confirm that and Stop Spammer is working as well. It may have been something in my forum, but I did have to make one manual edit to get httpBL to install. It was one line in /Sources/managepermissions.php The installer could not find
Code: [Select]
'view_stats' => array(false, 'general', 'view_basic_info'),
, but upon looking at the file, it was there.

Must have been because of another mod. I didn't have to edit anything to get it to install.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: busterone on June 13th, 2011, 06:28 AM

yea, I didn't research it, but I suspect it may have been the arcade mod that I installed before httpBL. I have followed the same procedure each time I upgraded to the next RC version. I always installed SP, the arcade, and then the anti spam mods. All other mods afterward were in no particular order ever.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: snoopy-virtual on June 13th, 2011, 04:17 PM

Luckily, once the new system for plug-ins is finished in Wedge we will never have this kind of problems here, as the plug-ins here don't need to touch any line of the code at all to work. :eheh:

A lot easier for mods/plug-ins developers and users.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 13th, 2011, 05:44 PM

That's definitely the plan :) I need to finalise some of the details in my head before I start building (like how versions should be handled, whether a plugin intimates its own version requirements or whether Wedge is smarter and does some kind of autodetection. Lots of ideas buzzing about this in my head right now.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: snoopy-virtual on June 13th, 2011, 07:22 PM

As somebody else told you somewhere else "Go crazy and do them all". :eheh:

I know you are going to do it properly and, when you finish it, I know you are not going to make my day. YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE MY F**ING YEAR. :niark:

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 13th, 2011, 08:32 PM

Also, http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=434092.msg3073089#msg3073089 is interesting.

I'm not exactly sure what the team will say but it's interesting nonetheless, and it does mean we're even more in the clear than before, bwhahahah.

Title: Re: 2.0 in download area
Post by: Arantor on June 20th, 2011, 11:35 AM

Also, it's starting to be noticed: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=438826.0

Yes, all software invariably ships with bugs, but it still feels like a PR move to me rather than one done for the right reasons.