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Title: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 21st, 2012, 02:17 AM
And it finally dawned on me why it bothered me in a really odd way.

The first attachment is of course the favicon, the second is what it reminds me of. That damned advert.

From Aqua Fresh Advert 2007(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27R0_2R5TY#) if you're wondering. Yes, this is a real commercial from the 1980s that I grew up with and over the last few years have been reshowing it unedited, because it still works.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 21st, 2012, 03:17 AM
Odd, I don't have the favicon! :) And this is a new browser as of 2 days ago (changed to Ubuntu for good xD... Although I do miss the sims...)

I still have a "we" favicon.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: live627 on March 21st, 2012, 07:10 AM
Quote from pivotraze on March 21st, 2012, 03:17 AM
Odd, I don't have the favicon! :) And this is a new browser as of 2 days ago (changed to Ubuntu for good xD... Although I do miss the sims...)

I still have a "we" favicon.
Firefox?

I have FF and see the favicon. The updated one.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Nao on March 21st, 2012, 07:44 AM
Pete. Are you serious..?
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 21st, 2012, 10:55 AM
It reminds me of Aquafresh toothpaste. It's only because I've had in the tab thingy as much as it has been that it reminded me of it.

It doesn't bother me particularly, it bothered me more that it reminded me of something but I couldn't remember what it was it reminded me of.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Nao on March 21st, 2012, 12:59 PM
Okay. Good then ;)
I thought you'd think the color palette is the same as the French flag ;) which isn't totally false actually. But not conscious.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 21st, 2012, 01:03 PM
Same colour palette as the United Kingdom flag ;) But no, that wasn't the thing.

Tell you what, though, it's only an issue on the active tab, on an inactive tab the white background doesn't reinforce that look at all ;)
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: live627 on March 22nd, 2012, 12:58 AM
 Or the US flag (red, white, blue) :P
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Aaron on March 22nd, 2012, 01:04 AM
Or the Dutch flag. Which is where it all started, of course.[1] ::)
 1. Well, that's what my teachers were telling me in primary school. Not sure what to believe, to be honest. Probably loads of nationalist pride on their part.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 22nd, 2012, 05:38 AM
Quote from live627 on March 21st, 2012, 07:10 AM
Quote from pivotraze on March 21st, 2012, 03:17 AM
Odd, I don't have the favicon! :) And this is a new browser as of 2 days ago (changed to Ubuntu for good xD... Although I do miss the sims...)

I still have a "we" favicon.
Firefox?

I have FF and see the favicon. The updated one.
No, Google Chrome :P

Well, Chromium, but they're basically the same thing lol
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Nao on March 22nd, 2012, 07:22 AM
Browsers are free to keep icons on cache for as long as they like.
To update the icon, try accessing it by URL and pressing f5.

http://wedge.org/favicon.ico
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 12:45 AM
So that gave me the new icon, but it makes me ponder something.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2pyywxl.png)
http://i39.tinypic.com/2pyywxl.png <-- In case the image doesn't attach. It hasn't 3 times in a row. Maybe a permission thing for user with less than x posts? :)

Should it have the background image? It doesn't in Aranator's picture so I'm just wondering haha

:edit: no permission issue, just the usual url bug. -- Nao
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: live627 on March 23rd, 2012, 12:56 AM
but it does in the OP. That is Chrome's active tab color, which hides the background.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 23rd, 2012, 01:06 AM
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In case the image doesn't attach. It hasn't 3 times in a row. Maybe a permission thing for user with less than x posts?
Do you get an error message?
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 01:30 AM
In chrome it is the standard, not chromium :)

And no, I don't Aranator :(
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 23rd, 2012, 01:32 AM
Quote from pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 01:30 AM
In chrome it is the standard, not chromium :)
Eh, I use Chrome.
Quote from pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 01:30 AM
And no, I don't Aranator :(
So, what exactly happens? Does it just mysteriously not upload or what?

(Also, there's only two A's in Arantor ;))
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 01:46 AM
Okay, so I found the problem, don't know what to do to fix it :)

Basically, I uploaded it to tinypic.com, and tried attaching it with the image button above.

It's supposed to do this:
Code: [Select]
[img][url]http://i39.tinypic.com/2pyywxl.png[/url][/img]

Instead it does this:
Code: [Select]
[img]http://[url]http://i39.tinypic.com/2pyywxl.png[/url][/img]

So I deleted the extraneous http://, but it comes back anyway. Even after I highlight, delete, and then click post, it adds it back in.
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(Also, there's only two A's in Arantor ;))
Oopsie! Didn't notice, I was reading your name Aran-Ator. Not Aran-tor. There should be close to no more misspellings haha
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 23rd, 2012, 01:48 AM
See, I figured you actually mean *attaching it* as a forum attachment...

Anyhow, yes, we know about that bug. Fixing it is another matter entirely.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 01:49 AM
What exactly caused it? Do you know? And if so, why was it introduced in Wedge, and wasn't there in SMF? Haha :)
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 23rd, 2012, 01:54 AM
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What exactly caused it?
As far as we know at the present time, a bug in the preparser.
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Do you know?
Not for certain.
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And if so, why was it introduced in Wedge, and wasn't there in SMF?
Certainly it's something we've done, and I'm suspecting that code related to the media embedder is responsible, but I don't know until I actually sit down and go through it with a fine tooth comb. Given my current personal situation, this isn't going to happen just yet.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 01:58 AM
Ah, I see. I wish I knew PHP/MySQL, but alas I do not. I only know HTML/CSS, and Python.

Anyways, if you attach a picture, will it automatically show it in the post as an image, or does something else need to be done? If so, that's an easy way around it. :)

Bugs are always the most annoying things, I have one in my program I'm trying to iron out, but it's escaping me. I'm sure I'll get it working eventually.

Anyways, good luck and I hope it gets ironed out sometime soon! Hope everything in your personal life gets better soon!
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 23rd, 2012, 02:12 AM
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Anyways, if you attach a picture, will it automatically show it in the post as an image, or does something else need to be done? If so, that's an easy way around it.
It will be attached at the end of the post but otherwise show as a picture.
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Bugs are always the most annoying things, I have one in my program I'm trying to iron out, but it's escaping me. I'm sure I'll get it working eventually.
There are rather a lot of bugs currently, not only the ones we've introduced with the massive number of changes we've run, but also that we inherited from SMF that have not yet been fixed in our codebase.

But as ever we'll figure it out :)
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 02:15 AM
Sweet, I guess I will just start attaching photos than uploading them to a site haa :)

As for that, I would definitely understand that. Taking on such a massive fork would be crazy. It would be like expecting that forking the Linux Kernel and changing the code to improve it would introduce exactly 0 bugs.

I wish you all the luck in the world! :)
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 23rd, 2012, 02:26 AM
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As for that, I would definitely understand that. Taking on such a massive fork would be crazy. It would be like expecting that forking the Linux Kernel and changing the code to improve it would introduce exactly 0 bugs.
We inherited 110k lines of code, the current codebase weighs in at around 175k lines of code (excluding comments and blank lines) and there's been an awful lot of changes under the hood. It doesn't really resemble SMF in some places any more...
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I wish you all the luck in the world! :)
Thanks :)
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 02:31 AM
Wow, that is a lot longer than any of my programs have come near. My most feature-complete program (with only 3 features missing, namely, printing, print preview, and page setup) is only ~400 lines of code. That's counting comments haha

If you ever end up releasing this under an open-source license, I will love to see the code, it sounds like it'd be an amazing learning experience.

You're welcome :)
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: Arantor on March 23rd, 2012, 02:40 AM
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If you ever end up releasing this under an open-source license, I will love to see the code, it sounds like it'd be an amazing learning experience.
Even if it's not open source, it'll be available for download, and PHP scripts generally aren't compiled ;) The nearest you normally get with PHP is stuff run through Zend Guard or ionCube Encoder, which raise their own sets of problems, so we won't be doing that.
Title: Re: OK, so I've had the new favicon in my browser for ~4 days...
Post by: pivotraze on March 23rd, 2012, 03:08 AM
Oh yeah, didn't really think about that :) i will definitely spend some time studying it. I've wanted to learn PHP for a long time, this may make it easier to do :) Not sure about that, but it will definitely make it very interesting.