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Title: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 6th, 2011, 07:30 PM
Feature: New theme
Developer: Nao
Target: everyone
Status: 100% (complete; details are updated as I feel like it.)
Comment:

Gone are Core, Babylon, Classic and Curve. None of SMF's themes had our preference. So we took the (pretty good) Curve codebase and built a new default theme upon it, using HTML5, CSS3 and jQuery.
Its main goal is to be easily extensible, which is achieved through the new Skins feature. See below, as well as the 'Forward thinking' section. Wedge's theme is both beautiful and has the cleanest possible code.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on May 6th, 2011, 10:35 PM
And I can confirm it's beautiful! :D
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 7th, 2011, 12:03 AM
 :thanks:
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on May 7th, 2011, 03:12 AM
Any chance of a screen shot teaser?  :hmm: 
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: DoctorMalboro on May 7th, 2011, 03:29 AM
Beautiful is a short term actually... :P
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 7th, 2011, 07:49 AM
Yeah screenshots are a possibility. I'll do them after the feature list is done. Or so.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on May 7th, 2011, 01:04 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 7th, 2011, 01:09 PM
Guys -- feel free to comment on feature topics really. Now's your opportunity to tell us what you're excited about, what you'd like to have more details on, and even suggest possible improvements that aren't already mentioned in the descriptions.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: and on May 7th, 2011, 08:30 PM
would feel ?  :whistle:
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: RvG on May 10th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Nao, honestly speaking, I am very much excited to see what is going inside there.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: billy2 on May 11th, 2011, 02:48 PM
Ey up :)

I would want a blue based theme for my wedge site, I see from your FB screenshot Wedge is 'brownish'.
Is this customisable in some way or do I have to wait for a themer to do the job properly?

I did try to find if anyone else had asked this so, sorry if Im repeating an already answered question.
Thanks
Billy
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Arantor on May 11th, 2011, 02:53 PM
You can alter it yourself, it's almost pure CSS.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: billy2 on May 11th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Thanks Arantor....... I think even I could cope with that  :blush:
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Arantor on May 11th, 2011, 03:07 PM
And the way the CSS compiler works, it becomes very easy; I'm doing a blue design for Innovate, not Imitate when I move that off WordPress and that didn't take long to come out. I doubt I'll provide the actual style code (wanting to keep it relatively unique and all) but I'll certainly discuss how it works.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: billy2 on May 11th, 2011, 03:25 PM
Thats very kind, thank you.
Dont worry about losing your uniqueness to my site..........  ::)
I have 60 odd members and know each and every one of them. We are a local club.... not a global enterprise like you boys.
Thanks for the offer.
Billy
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 11th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Quote from billy2 on May 11th, 2011, 02:48 PM
Ey up :)

I would want a blue based theme for my wedge site, I see from your FB screenshot Wedge is 'brownish'.
It's more 'wine-ish', actually. Since it's called Wine ;)
Quote
Is this customisable in some way or do I have to wait for a themer to do the job properly?
Very easy to do in a clean way (i.e. that won't get overwritten when you update, and won't require you to build a new theme.)

You just create a custom.css file, put it into your styling folder, and add a few lines to rebuild the main color scheme for all parent objects (i.e. everything that was used as a parent by inherited classes.)
This should automatically be applied to your style.css and override it.
Also, if you need IE6-specific hacks in your code, just create custom.ie6.css, and so on.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: billy2 on May 11th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Quote from Nao/Gilles on May 11th, 2011, 03:37 PM
It's more 'wine-ish', actually. Since it's called Wine ;)
Sorry, my bad  :eheh:
Quote from Nao/Gilles on May 11th, 2011, 03:37 PM
You just create a custom.css file, put it into your styling folder, and add a few lines to rebuild the main color scheme for all parent objects (i.e. everything that was used as a parent by inherited classes.)
This should automatically be applied to your style.css and override it.
Also, if you need IE6-specific hacks in your code, just create custom.ie6.css, and so on.
Holy cr4p Nao.........
I have only just learnt to type with two fingers  :lol:

Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Arantor on May 11th, 2011, 03:50 PM
Yeah, that is all that's needed but if you're not technical it can seem scary. As I said, we'll explain more in the future.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 11th, 2011, 04:00 PM
We can probably build something, later on, to allow you guys to change colors more easily.
I already have plans to make it possible to customize the CSS variables without changing a line of code. Although that will be very limiting.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: billy2 on May 11th, 2011, 04:16 PM
 :blush:
My talents are very limited - so any help - in whatever form - is appreciated.
More than you will ever know.

Thanks gents for your guidance

cheers
billy
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 11th, 2011, 04:20 PM
Oh, I know very well :p
Title: error handling
Post by: billy2 on June 13th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Not entirely sure where to put this question.

Any chance of creating 404 etc error handling pages using Wedge theme rather than those crappy server side ones?

Thanks
Billy
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on June 13th, 2011, 05:23 PM
Wedge does it already. As does SMF save for non php files.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: billy2 on June 13th, 2011, 05:33 PM
indeed, but I was going to stick a copy of it in root folder.
currently,  www/mysite/forum/404 is in smf theme - all well and good,
but get crappy text 404 from www/mysite/404

Ill cross that bridge Nao in due course
cheers
Billy

Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Arantor on June 13th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Wedge already does it from its own folder... doing it higher up requires some ninja/voodoo.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: billy2 on June 13th, 2011, 07:59 PM
 :lol:

Im all out of ninja moves.
I know you two have it all under control  :eheh:

Title: Re: New theme
Post by: padexx on August 19th, 2011, 07:45 PM
I'd love to support your fresh approach with a few new themes as I did with SMF 1.1.x
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Dragooon on August 19th, 2011, 09:24 PM
Quote from padexx on August 19th, 2011, 07:45 PM
I'd love to support your fresh approach with a few new themes as I did with SMF 1.1.x
I loved some of your themes.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Arantor on August 19th, 2011, 09:32 PM
I have to say, I never really looked at 1.1.x themes before, but I gotta say, I just took a look at your work and it does look pretty good. I'd love to see any more themes you work on. :)
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: DirtRider on August 20th, 2011, 12:02 PM
I am glad to see you are moving away from the SMF themes, good going  :cool:
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: padexx on August 22nd, 2011, 05:59 PM
Thanks! Just as curious as everybody else to try the "new" theming system. Keeping fingers crossed for easier (and more fun) theme creation :-)
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Maxx on January 13th, 2013, 01:03 AM
if anyone needs my help on any new theme variations themes, I'd also be glad to give it a go!

or any off line testing, would also be glad to help!

regards,
maxx
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on February 8th, 2013, 10:40 AM
Quote from Maxx on January 13th, 2013, 01:03 AM
if anyone needs my help on any new theme variations themes, I'd also be glad to give it a go!
What do you mean, don't like mine? :niark:
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Wanchope on May 1st, 2013, 04:43 AM
Never knew about the theming system but all I know is that wireless is by far the best theme here at Wedge. Originally create as a default theme for mobile phones but it is running smoothly on PC and the speed is amazing. Another thing that works commenting on is the Web 2.0 look.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 1st, 2013, 10:25 AM
Wedge is super-fast, mostly because its HTML is very tidy and all JavaScript is loaded at the end of the page (except if it's already cached and running fast, then it's loaded at the beginning, because I'm very much a mad optimizer.)
That's one of its points... I've always found SMF to be slower than some competitors like Fluxbb, which to be fair doesn't have the same amount of features or JavaScript. I wanted it to be on par... And still retain the same speed.

Also, most images are loaded through CSS embedding, so it's all a single server hit, meaning you don't get that delay in loading the later icons.

Web 2.0, far from it... I have a WIP skin around, but it's not ready for primetime. It's supposed to be more 2.0ish than the other skins.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Arantor on May 1st, 2013, 01:04 PM
What does Web 2.0 look like anyway?
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: ziycon on May 1st, 2013, 01:52 PM
I always thought web 2.0 was just a catch phrase the same way that could computing is at the moment, in a few years it will just go back to being plain old computing....!?
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Wanchope on May 1st, 2013, 02:44 PM
Quote from Arantor on May 1st, 2013, 01:04 PM
What does Web 2.0 look like anyway?
Am not a teacher but simple example is this

Open default Phpbb theme
Open Wireless the of Wedge
Log in to both of them
Try to use them, each for about five minutes

Give the result.
.......................................................................................

Drive two heavy trucks
One power steering, the other air steering
Drive both in a bended and busy road for about 1 mile
Give result.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: ziycon on May 1st, 2013, 02:58 PM
Quote from wanchope on May 1st, 2013, 02:44 PM
Quote from Arantor on May 1st, 2013, 01:04 PM
What does Web 2.0 look like anyway?
Am not a teacher but simple example is this

Open default Phpbb theme
Open Wireless the of Wedge
Log in to both of them
Try to use them, each for about five minutes

Give the result.
This isn't an answer though, your basically saying that PHPbb's and Wedge's theme are 'Web 2.0' when they are the interpretation by the said group (that's even if either theme was built for 'Web 2.0') inline with industry practises and expected functionality/layout/ease of use.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Wanchope on May 1st, 2013, 03:26 PM
Opposite

I actually bring two of them to light so somebody can compare and see the difference, to my understanding, web 2.0 looks is the web with modern look with neatly written html, working rss, color match - no color riot etc, etc. I was testing the rss in phpbb and found out after wasting a lot of time that phpbb  can only give rss to each topic and not to thread, this means that every post made have its on rss link and no rss link for topics/threads only.
Another good feature of web 2.0 is the ajax based functionality.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Kindred on May 1st, 2013, 03:29 PM
web 2.0 is nothing more than a catchphrase....

there is no "official web 2.0 specification"

So, you can call ANYTHING web 2.0 (and my company has done just that...   adding rounded corners and calling it the new, web 2.0 site)

BTW: Nao and Arantor... I don't think I've said it... but I like this theme.
For a while, though, it was having some really odd effects on the iPad and on my netbook (really small screen) with the miniprofile to the left actually appearing as a message-topper instead of a left col)
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Wanchope on May 1st, 2013, 03:37 PM
@Kindred
Thanks #neverknew
And yes, wireless is the best, using it as my default theme on both desktop and mobile browser.
Title: Re: New theme
Post by: Nao on May 1st, 2013, 06:00 PM
- web 2.0 is just a marketing word, yes. However, its original definition was that web 1.0 gave power to authors, while web 2.0 added power to the community, i.e. the development of comments in websites and blogs. It is largely accepted that web 2.0 was simply 'inspired' by what Amazon has been doing for a very, very long time (user reviews). From a designer's point of view, the 'web 2.0' definition relates to the trend that took off a few years ago, where websites started using bright, contrasted primitive colors on a white background. Typography is also a large parge of it.

- Wireless is pretty much the same as Weaving, with the exception of a few differences on the homepage, and topic pages showing the userbox on top of messages, rather than to their left... I don't see the reason for comparing the two..? They're the same really, but Wireless is optimized for narrow widths, that's all there is to say..?