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Public area => The Pub => Features => Topic started by: amlucent on July 20th, 2011, 07:57 AM
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its a small stupid request.. and I think I am the only one using aeva media gallery for local videos. I would love it if you would replace jwplayer with either videojs or flowplayer. Both are free and open source. The reason why I request this is because both of these players offer easy html 5 video with flash fall back. Maybe you can do it with jwplayer but I know mediacore will do it with these two and of the two I think videojs looked a little cleaner. I request this because I am very interested in supporting apple devices that do not support flash player :D. I dont know how much code would need to be replaced but if its small please consider it. Thanks Guys!
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Hi Amulent! Long time nosee! :)
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Um, you do realise that when there is "HTML5" playback, the player has absolutely nothing to do with it, right? That the exact same code could be wrapped around JWPlayer for HTML5 devices?
Out of interest what format do you use? Different browsers support different formats meaning that for plenty of users, Flash is the only option.
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There's also MediaSomething.js that does the html5/flash fallback thing.
But JWPlayer also does it in its later versions.
Honestly I'd have switched to any of these long ago, if it wasn't for the fact that JWPlayer added a watermark later on, and I don't want it, so I simply used the last version to feature no forced watermark.
As for 'why JWPlayer'? Because it's the only player I know of that's got a plugin system, and the only player plugin system I know of that's got a spectrum analyzer plugin. (For audio files.)
Heck, I don't even think other players, apart from Flow, play audio files as well...
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Hi Amulent! Long time nosee! :)
Um, you do realise that when there is "HTML5" playback, the player has absolutely nothing to do with it, right? That the exact same code could be wrapped around JWPlayer for HTML5 devices?
Out of interest what format do you use? Different browsers support different formats meaning that for plenty of users, Flash is the only option.
As I said before, I have been trying this Mediacore http://mediacore.com/ and it handles html 5 flash fall back really well with a number of players at the admins choice. Jwplayer was an option that did not handle html 5, so I assumed it couldnt, but with some further searching I see that it can do html 5 (which you already knew). Anyway, with mediacore I was able to try a number of different options for players and truth be told I liked sublime player the "best" but I dont think it was worth $10 a month, not with all these free options out here.
Anyway, if it could be done with jwplayer then great. I dont mind a watermark. The jwplayer water mark only pops up at the beginning of the video then goes away. I hardly even notice it but truthfully I dont even mind the flowplayer water mark that stays for the entire video.
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I am using mp4. I understand flash is the only option for a lot of machines unless I want to keep 3 versions of every file on my server (ogv, mp4, and webm. which I dont intend to do).
With Flash 11, webm will be supported everywhere (except for Android, ironically.)Anyway, if it could be done with jwplayer then great. I dont mind a watermark. The jwplayer water mark only pops up at the beginning of the video then goes away.
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So, I think this is the current jwplayer. It's playing in flash. Everytime I pause it the water mark does not appear.
http://www.longtailvideo.com/addons/skins/156/Stormtrooper
Anyway, you know whats best better than I do. I was just trying to think of a way for apple support without too much hassle for you.
Also, I thought webm got support in gingerbread?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/23/android-2-3-3-gives-you-another-reason-to-want-it-webm-support/
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Are you working over here now?
Still developing Dream portal?
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I think it's a good idea to add some function or feature that doesn't rely on flash so people can watch the videos on their phones with their default player.
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h.264 & lc-aac (mp4), html5, javascript, flash and silverlight are the only solutions that will likely work with most web browser and current & future mobile devices.
There no solution with older mobile devices!
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Silverlight is windows only iirc. Plus its only purpose is to compete against flash. Meh.
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Silverlight is windows only iirc. Plus its only purpose is to compete against flash. Meh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)
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Flash and Silverlight are just shit. Let's move on with HTML 5!
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It isn't as simple as that. Even if the HTML 5 tags are used, there's no guarantee the video or audio is available in a format that is suitable.
Not all browsers support H.264 out of the box, nor do all of them support Web-M, which means you potentially have to include Flash playing as a fallback. Besides, one of the perks of JWPlayer is the graphic equaliser which cannot be realised in HTML 5.
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It can be done but the audio API is in it's infancy. Chrome and firefox use incompatible implementations and nothing is standardized yet. Maybe in a year or two...
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In search of a new player, I stumbled upon this nice little thing.
@Nao: I think this should be the right replacement for jw-player.
It's also possible to display ads with it AND its VAST capable. This is something thats really expencive in other players (about 900 $). And this one if for free!
Just played around with it for a while and I'm really excited about it.
And the best of all: no problems with the license thingy.
http://www.videojs.com/
https://github.com/videojs/video.js
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But this doesn't seem to have a Flash fallback, so it isn't exactly more exciting than MediaElement, is it..?
http://mediaelementjs.com
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Videojs has Flash fallback. But it's not well documented :)
And a very hughe list of plugins (that was your concern a couple of posts before).
- videojs-markers: Add customizable markers upon progress bars
- videojs-errors: displays user-friendly error messages.
- videojs-youtube-videowall: Display video wall of related youtube videos after the video finishes. Require videojs-youtube.
- videojs-thumbnails: displays thumbnail images over the progress bar.
- videojs-endcard: Simple, customizable end card solution for VideoJS.
- videojs-vast: A VideoJS plugin to play pre-roll videos from a VAST feed.
- videojs-rtc: displays a WebRTC chat window alongside the player to be able to chat with a friend while watching a video.
- videojs-leapmotion: a plugin to control video playback with Leap Motion.
- videojs-playlist: easily create a playlist of videos. Gives some methods to videojs and provides useful events to allow customization.
- videojs-playlist (<video> or <audio>): designed for video or audio playlists. Plays tracks continuously or by selecting them.
- videojs-persistvolume: remembers the volume last set by the user and applies it to new instances of player.
- videojs-rotatezoom: a plugin to easily rotate or zoom in a video.
- videojs-watermark: Display a watermark/overlay on top of the video.
- videojs-cuepoints: Sync actions with the media timeline.
- videojs-resolutions: Provides a button that dynamically switches the video stream between sources.
- videojs-rangeslider: Create a range slider to select a region of a video in video-js.
- videojs-ga: Google Analytics plugin for video.js
- videojs-relatedCarousel: Button that when clicked shows a list of images that link to urls. Envisioned as a way to show related content inside the player.
- videojs-ageGate: Forces a user to enter a satisfactory birth date before video will play.
- videojs-progressTips: Tooltip on hover of the progressbar with the time.
- videojs-imageOverlay: Add an opaque, clickable overlay on a video during a specified time range.
- videojs-chromeCast: Display a chromecast Button on Control Bar video.js players.
- videojs-disable-progress: Disable / Enable progress scrubbing. Useful for preroll advertisements where skipping the video isn't an option.
- videojs-sharing: Add a menu to the control bar to share the video/page using the addThis API (no account required)
- videojs-stereopanner: Adds stereo channel panning functions
- videojs-akamai-analytics: Akamai Sola Analytics plugin for video.js
- videojs-comscore: Reports to comScore using their latest Streaming Tag SDK
- Playback Techs (support media from different sources)
- videojs-youtube: Allows you to play YouTube videos within VideoJS.
- videojs-vimeo: Allows you to play Vimeo videos within VideoJS.
- videojs-dailymotion: Allows you to play Dailymotion videos within VideoJS.
- videojs-soundcloud: Allows you to play soundcloud tracks within VideoJS.
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And a very nice API. :)