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Public area => The Pub => Topic started by: Nightwish on February 28th, 2013, 07:39 PM
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Probably off-topic here, but imho still worth to mention:
http://gracelaw.com/NewsXF.html
In short words, XenForo has apparently won the battle. The case has been dismissed after the parties reached a confidential settlement. The public will most likely never learn about the details of the settlement, but the statement by gracelaw implies that Xf will remain an independent entity and IB has no further way to harm their business.
The case was dismissed with prejudice, basically meaning it's over. Once and forever.
These are bad days for IB/vB. First, they lost the Wikitravel case, then came the disaster with vB going "gold" (imho, it's not even iron in its current state :) ) and now this.
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Yup, I've been following the trial in recent times, it's been interesting, especially with the promotion of vB 5 to gold status (though note they haven't actually called it *gold* at any point, just 5.0.0, officially supported)
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I am really happy for them. I'm sure Kyle and the rest of the gangs will be back to XF.
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Maybe now we can see 1.2 features.
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I for one welcome the bar being raised by there being two decent paid forums out there ;)
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I agree, I think the other you are referring to is IPB.
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Bingo.
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Ok good, glad you weren't thinking about VB. Nothing they have impress me to spend that kind of money.
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Oh, I have a vB licence. vB 5... consider for a moment that an exploit allowing access to the admin panel was found inside 24 hours after 'gold' release.
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I have heard that VB has nothing but security issues since 4 came out.
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I can't comment on that, I don't know the history, nor have I spent time reviewing vB 4 or 5 from a user aspect yet (you can find my thoughts on vB 3.8 around here though)
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Oh, this reminds me that I have to read the rest of that huge vB topic like you asked me, Pete...
I'm afraid it'll be hard for me in the next few days... Plus I'm totally (totally..) lost with respect to French translations.
Anyway, now maybe xF has a chance to catch up with... Wedge 8-)
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Oh, this reminds me that I have to read the rest of that huge vB topic like you asked me, Pete...
Eh, the salient points of that thread are: 1) threaded replies are technically feasible but the UI implementation sucks, 2) the moderation centre as a UI system sucks and we can do a bunch better with a 'board' of some fashion. Exactly what that entails I don't know yet.Plus I'm totally (totally..) lost with respect to French translations.
I wish I knew French :( But maybe this is the impetus I need to build a proper translation tool for use here to manage even that.
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Eh, the salient points of that thread are: 1) threaded replies are technically feasible but the UI implementation sucks,
Last post I read was your reply on how you found my "click paragraph to add a floating textarea box" idea was interesting and original. Which I appreciated, because yeah that's precisely what it is, an original idea... ;) I didn't get to work on it, though, but I guess it would be a first step towards both a better mobile integration, and a 'natural feel' per-post quick reply.2) the moderation centre as a UI system sucks and we can do a bunch better with a 'board' of some fashion. Exactly what that entails I don't know yet.
What I've always hated in this center/centre, is that you can't access moderator posts from there, so it makes absolutely no sense to me... And I think I read about you complaining that board moderators couldn't access it, either. If that's the case, indeed it's quite silly...I wish I knew French :( But maybe this is the impetus I need to build a proper translation tool for use here to manage even that.
It's just that after you posted your EmailTemplates thing, I got overwhelmed. You know, the adding of a 'desc' line for every single entry..? I stopped midway through it. I still have the file opened, waiting for completion, but I just can't find the will to get into it. And because of that, and the fact that you removed a lot of entries and did it for French files too, I'm also lost on whether there are actually entries I should translate, or not, in every commit you made.
Bugger...
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Last post I read was your reply on how you found my "click paragraph to add a floating textarea box" idea was interesting and original. Which I appreciated, because yeah that's precisely what it is, an original idea... ;)
:) Credit where credit is due.What I've always hated in this center/centre, is that you can't access moderator posts from there, so it makes absolutely no sense to me... And I think I read about you complaining that board moderators couldn't access it, either. If that's the case, indeed it's quite silly...
On second thoughts, let's not go to Camelot, it is a silly place. ;)I stopped midway through it. I still have the file opened, waiting for completion, but I just can't find the will to get into it. And because of that, and the fact that you removed a lot of entries and did it for French files too, I'm also lost on whether there are actually entries I should translate, or not, in every commit you made.
I saw that, and honestly I wouldn't be that worried. There's two choices - I can either work on a proper language tool for here (though given my lack of enthusiasm for the inline one in Wedge...) or I can just shove stuff through Google Translate as a working one and it get fixed later. Up to you. I don't mind doing stuff like that if it would be useful.
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:) Credit where credit is due.
Oh, don't talk to me about credits today... :lol:I saw that, and honestly I wouldn't be that worried. There's two choices - I can either work on a proper language tool for here (though given my lack of enthusiasm for the inline one in Wedge...) or I can just shove stuff through Google Translate as a working one and it get fixed later. Up to you. I don't mind doing stuff like that if it would be useful.
I don't know, I'm looking at the rev 1942-1949 diff patch, and there aren't as many strings as I remembered... It also seems that I'm done with the 1935-1938 diff. All that should remain from earlier, is EmailTemplates. I think I was done with the rest (such as the new ManageLanguages strings... Although I'm not sure...)
Also, when you removed the package files, did you thoroughly check for unused text strings...?
I only tested for one, and couldn't find it. It is $txt['package_file_contents']. I suppose there may be many more..?
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Also, when you removed the package files, did you thoroughly check for unused text strings...?
I did actually remove a little more after that in r1959, but once I get the plugin server architecture sorted out, there's little reason to keep the rest of that language file at all.
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Yeah, that particular string was gone already anyway, I'd only checked the diff patch but forgotten to update my files themselves.
ManageSettings wasn't up to date. I fixed that.
Errors wasn't, either. And Admin.
ManageMail is up to date. I think everything's good now, except for EmailTemplates...
I'd be great to have some tool, in the language cache stuff, to actually spot missing language entries and notify the admin... Ohhhhhh yes, thaaat would be goooood.... :)
Heck, even better: storing a MD5 of all English files, thus spotting any modifications, and determining whether the equivalent translation has a modified MD5 as well. In which case --> all good. Otherwise --> may need an update.
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I didn't mean in the language cache stuff. I mean here for all translations (because we will need to cope with other languages as well!) so we'll need to check there, and it could field French too. Don't know yet. Needs way more thought to handle it, but I'm less inclined to put that in Wedge core because it's not that useful for general admins.