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Title: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on August 25th, 2011, 08:48 AM
A year ago, on August 25, 2010, the first commit to the Wedge SVN server was made. I was hoping to get to rev 1000 before the first anniversary, but I tend to commit small bug fixes in a large batch so we 'only' reached the 965 commit milestone.

Well, a year later, what can be said of the project...? It already had a name back then, it still has the same. It had goals and a vision, it still does. Some adjustments were made to our schedule (personally, I decided to give up on a lot of the Noisen.com improvements I was planning to integrate, and will rewrite them later), and other things were pushed into the codebase as we went -- the product of being mainly fueled by passion, instead of money. I know, I know, it's a classic, but it's just the plain truth -- you can't work full time on an unpaid project for a year without some kind of solid passion and commitment. Back when we started the project, I wasn't 100% sure Pete would remain interested in the project in the long run. I was totally wrong, so I'd like to take the opportunity to give a big thumb up to him for being one of the driving forces (the other being me, but I may not say :P) behind the Wedge project, a shining beacon of courage and determination, a herdsman for the nerds, a vanquisher of spaghetti code and... What, I fully expect him to give me the same treatment in return! :niark:

(Oh, and in other news, apparently I'm back in the 'Friends' group at SM.org. Can anyone tell me when this kind of thing happens? :P)

What better way to celebrate the first anniversary than to release a public alpha version! Yes!

Okay, I'm playing with your nerves... There is nothing (yet), but it won't be too long now. As the commit process is now a public one, you've all seen we're still as busy as ever to fix bugs and add new features. I can't honestly see myself release Wedge without having first integrated Aeva into the avatar and attachment system, and I can't work on that before I can fully focus on it. And this month has been doing a very good work at distracting me: Nightwish's fork (interesting ideas, it's definitely going to be the worthiest competitor to Wedge if Nightwish can keep up for another year :D), playing a little gem of a game played Xenoblade (okay, so I passed on other RPGs and JRPGs these last few months because they're time eaters, but the guy made one of my all-time top 3 games so I have to play his titles, even if unrelated to Xenogears), and more generally a personal burnout and declining health (I'm not one to complain, though. These things happen in cycles.)

In short: I don't remember my original schedule, but right now my personal target is for a demo in early September, and an alpha in late September or October. I'm still kind of wary about releasing my code to a general audience. It's our baby you know... We want Harvard for it. Hopefully it'll spawn into Facebook. Or something else.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Arantor on August 25th, 2011, 08:54 AM
It's been a hell of a year :)

Just one thing:
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Hopefully it'll spawn into Facebook. Or something else.
I'm going for the something else category since being Facebook is not actually a particularly desirable prospect, seeing how that would give us a reputation for not caring about little details like privacy in favour of making money off users...
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on August 25th, 2011, 09:21 AM
Quote from Arantor on August 25th, 2011, 08:54 AM
I'm going for the something else category
I was just referring to The Social Network you know :P I loved that movie... (That, and Zombieland? Jesse Eisenberg FTW.)
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since being Facebook is not actually a particularly desirable prospect, seeing how that would give us a reputation for not caring about little details like privacy in favour of making money off users...
It's only hurting privacy because of monetization concepts, which are going to be important when going public on the market. We don't have that problem, ourselves... Not that we don't like money, but we don't HAVE to monetize it because it's small and it doesn't cost us anything, except for our free time and our souls.

Anyway -- back to topic :P
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: billy2 on August 25th, 2011, 09:27 AM
Happy Birthday Wedge


(http://www.scubadivingforum.co.uk/wedgeimages/Birthday_Candles.gif)


I know there are five candles instead of one....... I think you two (and others) deserve the extra four ;)
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Dr. Deejay on August 25th, 2011, 09:49 AM
Happy birthday and congrats! :D
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: RvG on August 25th, 2011, 09:57 AM
Luv you guys... keep it up!  :cool:
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: live627 on August 25th, 2011, 10:23 AM
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What better way to celebrate the first anniversary than to release a public alpha version! Yes!
/mewaits for the people saying they want it...  now
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: billy2 on August 25th, 2011, 10:24 AM
Quote from live627 on August 25th, 2011, 10:23 AM
/mewaits for the people saying they want it...  now
well, it was a heart stopping statement  :eheh:
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on August 25th, 2011, 10:27 AM
I know... I can be evil when I want. :niark:
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on August 25th, 2011, 11:06 AM
Wow.. A year is gone.. And has been a wonderful one for Wedge! I remember the discussions about the name of the project, the fears of being another Yourasoft, the choose of the domain name, the first revs, the list of possible features to implement and the will of everyone to make a great software! Happy birthday Wedge, and a huge Bravo! to Nao & Arantor!! Keep on trolllin'
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: live627 on August 25th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Who's trollin'!? :P
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Dragooon on August 25th, 2011, 11:59 AM
Quote from live627 on August 25th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Who's trollin'!? :P
They trolled the hell out of SMF in the last year :P
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Drunken Clam on August 25th, 2011, 01:18 PM
Many congrats to both of you, I can almost feel the passion you both emit!

Very well done, awesome work.  :cool:

My new domain is just sitting there waiting for Wedge, complete with statement saying so and linking back to here.

Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: dorje on August 25th, 2011, 02:12 PM
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!     


(http://forum.artistimarziali.org/Smileys/clabIcons/surprised.gif)    (http://forum.artistimarziali.org/Smileys/clabIcons/surprised.gif) (http://forum.artistimarziali.org/Smileys/clabIcons/surprised.gif)
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: ARG on August 25th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Cheers to Wedge and crew.  :yahoo:
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: spoogs on August 25th, 2011, 03:23 PM
Happy Anniversary

From what I've seen and read you guys have done a great job thus far... keep up the awesomeness (http://skypeemoticons.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Skype-emoticons-78-rock.gif)
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Dismal Shadow on August 25th, 2011, 03:28 PM
A year already, it feels like it had just begun...
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on August 25th, 2011, 03:29 PM
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Who's trollin'!? :P
ahah I was joking :P
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Dragooon on August 25th, 2011, 03:40 PM
On a more serious note, it's great to see the kind of dedication you guys are showing. I can't wait until the show really starts.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Soms on August 25th, 2011, 07:39 PM
Quote from Drunken Clam on August 25th, 2011, 01:18 PM
My new domain is just sitting there waiting for Wedge.
Same here. Wedge is the reason my forum still reads Powered by SMF 1.1.14  instead of Powered by SMF 2.0. After waiting 5 years for 2.0 to be final, I can wait 5 more weeks for Wedge to be Alpha. I admire your passion & commitment guys.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on August 25th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Thanks everyone :)

Soms, just wanted to point out that for now, there will not be any converters for SMF 1.x, only for SMF 2.0... It's already complicated enough as it is, what with the thousand changes ;) So you'd probably better try and upgrade. Or harrass TE until he makes a SMF1 converter :P
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Soms on August 25th, 2011, 08:37 PM
Quote from Nao on August 25th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Soms, just wanted to point out that for now, there will not be any converters for SMF 1.x, only for SMF 2.0... It's already complicated enough as it is, what with the thousand changes ;) So you'd probably better try and upgrade. Or harrass TE until he makes a SMF1 converter :P
I am just going to do a clean install of Wedge when it is ready and let the old forum just fade away. Some people still like the Soviet Lada. But sometimes you have to move on in life. People who are really committed are bound to join my new (Wedge) forum when it is there.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on August 25th, 2011, 08:40 PM
Yes, that's another possibility. ;)
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: tumbleweed on August 25th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Congrats!!!

Been a year already. You both have finished a great deal of work.

Good Job...

Frank
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Cassiel on August 25th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Congrats to the both of you. :) It's been a joy to see you guys work (or talking about what you're working on in public, at least), and I am extremely excited to see what the next year holds!
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: and on August 25th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Congratulations :yahoo: . I sincerely wish you good luck, health, success, patience and effort, that would be enough for work on the wedge  :cool:
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Senalaya on August 26th, 2011, 12:21 AM
Quote from Makar on August 25th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Congratulations :yahoo: . I sincerely wish you good luck, health, success, patience and effort, that would be enough for work on the wedge  :cool:
+1

Having just registered here and finished browsing the FAQ and feature list, I'm really excited, where this is heading.

Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Powerbob on August 26th, 2011, 01:29 AM
Quote from Makar on August 25th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Congratulations :yahoo: . I sincerely wish you good luck, health, success, patience and effort, that would be enough for work on the wedge  :cool:
+1  :cool:
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: dorje on August 26th, 2011, 08:12 AM
Quote from Nao on August 25th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Thanks everyone :)

Soms, just wanted to point out that for now, there will not be any converters for SMF 1.x, only for SMF 2.0...
Hmmmm... Only 2.0 final or also 2.0 RC 4 - 5?

You know, as I heard about wedge, I didn't upgrade to 2.0 final, I'm still with a patched RC 4 (as this forum as well :niark:).
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Arantor on August 26th, 2011, 09:07 AM
The database is not any different from RC4 as far as I remember.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: RvG on August 26th, 2011, 09:31 AM
I thought i have heard the upcoming release of SMF3... oppsss is it Wedge?  :niark:
congrats in advance.  :P
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on August 26th, 2011, 10:35 AM
With the number of new features, it could easily be SMF 3.0 indeed. :)
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Norodo on August 26th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Are you implying that SMF gets a lot of new features between releases?

Oh lawd.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Arantor on August 26th, 2011, 02:15 PM
Between 1.1 and 2.0 it certainly did. Just that between 2.0 beta/RCs, it didn't. (Though, to be fair, it DID get functional enhancements in each RC starting with 2.0 RC2. The buddy/ignore dialogue didn't exist until RC2, load balancing came UI was in either RC2 or RC3, I seem to remember something else in RC3, RC4 and RC5 brought hook improvements)
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Norodo on August 26th, 2011, 02:19 PM
Yeah that would be my bad attempt at humor ._.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Arantor on August 26th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Oh, the point didn't go unnoticed ;) Just that people have seen the RCs as intermediate releases and have actually been known to ask what new features there are.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on August 26th, 2011, 03:47 PM
Quote from Arantor on August 26th, 2011, 09:07 AM
The database is not any different from RC4 as far as I remember.
BTW -- Wedge.org is running 2.0 RC4 and as you can see from the screenshots, I had no trouble importing it into Wedge... :)
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Arantor on August 26th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Even with all the custom tweaks you've made to RC4's core :P
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Dismal Shadow on August 26th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Quote from Arantor on August 26th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Even with all the custom tweaks you've made to RC4's core :P
That's because it imports the db, not file edits, no?
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on August 26th, 2011, 03:58 PM
Quote from Arantor on August 26th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Even with all the custom tweaks you've made to RC4's core :P
Yep... Of course these tweaks are gone. But they can be re-implemented.
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Arantor on August 26th, 2011, 04:03 PM
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That's because it imports the db, not file edits, no?
Correct.
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Yep... Of course these tweaks are gone. But they can be re-implemented.
Of course they can. Odds are we'll do at least as cleanly as before, if not more cleanly :)
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nori on August 31st, 2011, 07:33 PM
Congrats guys!
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: borg1985 on September 9th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Congrats on 1 year!!  Looking forward to many more years of Wedge!!  Now to catch up on posts after spending a week[1] without power.
 1. August 28th - September 3rd
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on September 9th, 2011, 09:15 PM
An offline Borg unit? Must be painful! Sorry, must be 00000000!1
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Dismal Shadow on September 9th, 2011, 09:22 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on September 9th, 2011, 09:27 PM
Hey, I'm a sucker for the best of all-- Locutus!
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: borg1985 on September 9th, 2011, 09:49 PM
Quote from Nao on September 9th, 2011, 09:15 PM
An offline Borg unit? Must be painful! Sorry, must be 00000000!1
It sucked!  I ended up going to our towns library a few days since they have free WiFi just so I could do some things online.  Haven't spent that long not logging into Second Life or even just being online in I don't know how long.
Quote from Nao on September 9th, 2011, 09:27 PM
Hey, I'm a sucker for the best of all-- Locutus!
Interestingly this is the first place I've used Locutus or any borg as my avatar and I've been going by borg1985/borg for something like 12 years now.  :lol:
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: neverhurry on October 10th, 2011, 07:27 AM
GREAT! Congrats!
Title: Re: Anniwersary
Post by: Nao on October 10th, 2011, 07:41 AM
Hey we're closing in on 14 months now :P