[Flames] Dream Portal

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[Flames] Dream Portal
« on February 19th, 2011, 11:51 PM »Last edited on April 3rd, 2011, 08:47 AM by Nao/Gilles
(Split by Nao from "Looking for Portal Suggestions".)

DP's founder was once a dev for SP - maybe that's where the DP chasing SP  impression came from?

DP currently has nothing in the way of articles.
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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #1, on March 31st, 2011, 08:32 AM »
Quote from live627 on February 19th, 2011, 11:51 PM
DP's founder was once a dev for SP - maybe that's where the DP chasing SP  impression came from?

DP currently has nothing in the way of articles.
(wary)

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #2, on March 31st, 2011, 10:32 AM »
Is that your way of saying "Hello"?

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #3, on March 31st, 2011, 10:40 AM »
Quote from Bloc on February 19th, 2011, 05:28 PM
- DreamPortal - occasionally very hard to grasp the concept behind modules/layout + no real articles(AFAIK)
Dream Articles will be added in DP 1.1.

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #4, on March 31st, 2011, 11:40 AM »
I'm afraid DP is quite dead and there's nothing we can do about it. May I add that we'd rather not have Dream Portal flames around here?
I only moved this topic among others to the public area because I made some mass topic moves and barely read the contents (only checked that it didn't have any private stuff in it.)
Regarding DP, it's bad mojo to us.

Last year, at the suggestion of Arantor, they chose to go BSD.
Then, when we started discussing writing portal features for Wedge, Dream Portal came into it and we decided to look into forking it for Wedge, since it's allowed, and we already had one of the DP developers onboard (and one of its project managers IIRC).
Well, turned out that the Dream Portal project lead(s) was/were adamantly against it... And when you start questioning your very own license, there's a problem with the way you're dealing with your project.
In the end, we just felt this behavior was too childish that it could hurt the quality of the work that its developers put into it. And we decided against using Dream Portal at all.

In the end we'll probably write everything by ourselves. It will take time but that's what we get for playing things fair and square. :P (It's a good thing I wrote AeMe, innit? It would be awful if I couldn't reuse it eheh.)

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #5, on March 31st, 2011, 11:49 AM »
I suggest to stop this discussion about DP right now before things get out of hand again. This is not about DP but about wedge ;) :cool:

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #6, on March 31st, 2011, 11:54 AM »
As I said... I find it odd that ccbtimewiz would register here, and post precisely in this topic, to say something obscure. If he's not planning to say hello and keep his act together, then he'd better leave now because that's obviously him I was talking about. I try my best at keeping my ideas open about people (which is why I have nothing against Chris being here as long as he acts properly like any newcomer instead of just posting weird messages), but I also expect others to do the same for us. I rest my case.

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #7, on March 31st, 2011, 11:59 AM »
I don't understand why he did that... Anyways, back to topic! :angel:

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #8, on March 31st, 2011, 07:10 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on March 31st, 2011, 11:40 AM
I'm afraid DP is quite dead and there's nothing we can do about it. May I add that we'd rather not have Dream Portal flames around here?
I only moved this topic among others to the public area because I made some mass topic moves and barely read the contents (only checked that it didn't have any private stuff in it.)
Regarding DP, it's bad mojo to us.

Last year, at the suggestion of Arantor, they chose to go BSD.
Then, when we started discussing writing portal features for Wedge, Dream Portal came into it and we decided to look into forking it for Wedge, since it's allowed, and we already had one of the DP developers onboard (and one of its project managers IIRC).
Well, turned out that the Dream Portal project lead(s) was/were adamantly against it... And when you start questioning your very own license, there's a problem with the way you're dealing with your project.
In the end, we just felt this behavior was too childish that it could hurt the quality of the work that its developers put into it. And we decided against using Dream Portal at all.

In the end we'll probably write everything by ourselves. It will take time but that's what we get for playing things fair and square. :P (It's a good thing I wrote AeMe, innit? It would be awful if I couldn't reuse it eheh.)
Well, for one, I haven't mentioned DP flames or whatnot considering the development for DP got active again, minus myself and some others.

I'm not responsible for DP anymore so really I don't have anything to say. And respectfully put, the vote was against to allow the inclusion of DP inside of any other software.
Quote from Nao/Gilles on March 31st, 2011, 11:54 AM
As I said... I find it odd that ccbtimewiz would register here, and post precisely in this topic, to say something obscure. If he's not planning to say hello and keep his act together, then he'd better leave now because that's obviously him I was talking about. I try my best at keeping my ideas open about people (which is why I have nothing against Chris being here as long as he acts properly like any newcomer instead of just posting weird messages), but I also expect others to do the same for us. I rest my case.
You find it odd because I read a topic that interests me? You're instigating an argument that shouldn't even exist.
Quote from willemjan on March 31st, 2011, 11:59 AM
I don't understand why he did that... Anyways, back to topic! :angel:
... which is precisely what I was on.

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #9, on March 31st, 2011, 07:22 PM »
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And respectfully put, the vote was against to allow the inclusion of DP inside of any other software.
And respectfully put, you can't actually do that without re-licensing the software, unless you're unclear about the meaning of the New BSD licence.
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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #10, on March 31st, 2011, 07:27 PM »
DP went through a license change to closed source

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #11, on March 31st, 2011, 07:28 PM »
Such things aren't retroactive though. Any release that existed with a BSD licence can still be used for that purpose.

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #12, on March 31st, 2011, 07:38 PM »
I suppose that's true

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #13, on March 31st, 2011, 09:33 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on March 31st, 2011, 11:40 AM
In the end we'll probably write everything by ourselves. It will take time but that's what we get for playing things fair and square. :P (It's a good thing I wrote AeMe, innit? It would be awful if I couldn't reuse it eheh.)
may well be better? integrated by default

did not take - should not

- more than just a forum <br />sorry for my english

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[Flames] Re: Dream Portal
« Reply #14, on March 31st, 2011, 11:03 PM »
Recomendation: DO NOT USE PORTALS.