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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #15, on March 31st, 2011, 07:21 PM »
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Mobile phones with full browsing support and Touch Screens change things really.
Yes, I agree. I use a touch screen device daily for this reason.
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H1, H2, H3 isn't really needed if your doing HTML 5 <header>/<section>. That's even better.
If you're really serious about it, why aren't you asking us about things like microdata?
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I'll argue the image height & width though. Without it, too much page jumping going on. Especially at slower speeds, or those with latency/server issues. Every little bit helps...
Except that search engines do not hit the images as much, and since speed is one factor in Google's ranking, and having a higher content:markup ratio has to help in that too...
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Alt attributes are still needed, even though they are not a requirement for HTML 5 Doctype.
Even when the specification explicitly says they should be empty for when they are used in non informational contexts, e.g. bullet point images?
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Again, mobile phones, ipads, some netbooks, will not cache or even load most images over 25K.
And? That's relevant how to this part of the discussion? I'm aware of that limitation, but from a purely 'search engine optimisation' point of view it doesn't make so much difference. SEO by definition is making the content more accessible to machine readers, often at the expense of real users.
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I completely disagree with about 80% of what was said there.
So you're telling me that you can magically make a forum *measurably* better in search engine rankings without dictating the content to users?

See, to be honest, that's just "I disagree but don't have anything to back up arguing why I disagree"...
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- more than just a forum <br />sorry for my english

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #17, on March 31st, 2011, 10:02 PM »
-sigh- Pretty URLs IS supported but NOT for SEO purposes. It does not add significant ranking benefit. It is supported solely because it is nice.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #19, on March 31st, 2011, 10:21 PM »
So, you can see it's added here, and similar implemented in Wedge. It's a core feature, not enabled by default. And it was done to make the URLs nice, just that I won't use it myself.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #20, on March 31st, 2011, 10:30 PM »
I like
(if only numbers are not indicated to topics)
http:// wedge. org/pub/6551/wedge-seo/
yes with cyrillic normally that would work

sample - question on the forum and Administration
of Russian - Вопросы по работе форума и администрации
translit - ........./voprosy-po-rabote-foruma-i-administracii/

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #21, on March 31st, 2011, 10:33 PM »
No, we will NOT do that. I am not adding possibly multiple database queries just to load the page.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #22, on March 31st, 2011, 10:44 PM »
but I can get instructions on how to do it myself? (if I need it actually)

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #23, on March 31st, 2011, 10:49 PM »
Not from us, to be honest. We're not going to spend too much time rewriting it when we're not planning on using it like that. It does not bring anything useful other than serious extra load, and shorter looking URLs.

Consider: YouTube doesn't have SEO URLs and it hasn't lost out in traffic or hits ;)

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #24, on March 31st, 2011, 10:54 PM »
Arantor I do not consider seo url as an assistant

not for greed
for convenience

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #25, on March 31st, 2011, 11:01 PM »
If you want to keep everyone happy, do as Wordpress and let everyone choose which kind of URLs use. Simple or "Pretty" URLs.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #26, on March 31st, 2011, 11:27 PM »
That's the thing, people don't type URLs, they copy paste them. That means they can still see the name in it just fine, so it is not any more or less convenient, it is one of aesthetics.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #27, on April 1st, 2011, 12:47 AM »
We obviously have to different opinions. No point in arguing over it.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #28, on April 1st, 2011, 01:05 AM »
My opinion is based on experience and corroborated by plenty of others in the industry, but show me something that disagrees that's based on something other than speculation and I'll listen.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #29, on April 1st, 2011, 01:09 AM »
Use goo.gl or bit.ly, that's the easiest way and the one that means I don't have to bare the fact of "herp derp i has pretty urlz, can i has indexation pl0x?" of people...