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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #30, on April 1st, 2011, 01:19 AM »
I bet the search engines have been very careful with such links because of the link juice that must flow in and out of those services.

I don't really like having a core feature reliant on an external service - but if anything URL shorteners just back up my argument that 'friendly URLs' are not that relevant.
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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #31, on April 1st, 2011, 08:58 PM »
Going through a backlog of 27 unread posts here...
Quote from TE on March 31st, 2011, 05:54 PM
Quote from Nao/Gilles on March 31st, 2011, 10:28 AM
I'm planning to implement <article> and <section> tags as well, but I have yet to decide whether blog comments should be in their own <article> tags or not.
Would be great in general, but IIRC you'll break IE6 compability..
Technically, it breaks in IE6/7/8.
And no, it doesn't break in Wedge, because we're using the html5shiv. Google it :) It's a very small script that makes sure the tags are stylable. (You still have to declare them in the css, but then again it's also the same for most other browsers.)

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #32, on April 1st, 2011, 09:04 PM »
True, i use it once.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #33, on April 1st, 2011, 09:07 PM »
Try http://try.powermapper.com/demo/sortsite.aspx

It's just a free tool I use. It shows all pages with SEO issues and the link to the standards as such. Like I said, just a tool. I learned alot from it, and changed some of my HTML/CSS coding ways...

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #34, on April 1st, 2011, 09:12 PM »
Quote from Makar on March 31st, 2011, 10:30 PM
I like
(if only numbers are not indicated to topics)
http:// wedge. org/pub/6551/wedge-seo/
A big no. I'm strongly against URLs with no visible ID.
- The extra query mentioned by Pete... And it's not exactly like it's not an expensive one.
- What if you rename the topic later? Do you keep the old title in the URL (bad) or generate 404s for existing links? (very bad.)
- What if you move the topic to another board? The top-level URL will change, but what about the low-level one? The topic title? It can only be done if all topic titles are stored in a single pool for the entire forum. Which means if you have 5000 blogs and someone types "Hello" as their first post, they'll get a URL like "hello1234" instead. For no reason.

Really... It's way better to always have the topic ID. Plus, you can shorten the URL by just specifying the topic ID without anything to its right.
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yes with cyrillic normally that would work
UTF8 languages are supported in my pretty URLs implementation. At least it works for Japanese.
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Quote from Arantor on March 31st, 2011, 10:49 PM
Consider: YouTube doesn't have SEO URLs and it hasn't lost out in traffic or hits ;)
And, err... This little website called Facebook or something........ :whistle:

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #36, on April 1st, 2011, 09:21 PM »
On wedge.org...

if (typeof side == "undefined") side = 0;
 
"This page contains placeholder text such as Lorem Ipsum, CHANGEME, FIXME or TODO."

Smart. Is it complaining about "undefined"? Uh...

"The SCRIPT LANGUAGE attribute is deprecated in HTML 4.01."

Too bad it's a XHTML page...

Also seems to complain that SMF is using some h2 tags without being preceeded by h1 tags...
From the little I know, Google actually likes h1 tags to be used once (most important data on the page), and so on. That doesn't add up...
Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #37, on April 1st, 2011, 09:22 PM »
Quote from Arantor on April 1st, 2011, 09:13 PM
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And, err... This little website called Facebook or something
I know (try with "noisen"), but it still uses non-pretty URLs by default...

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #38, on April 1st, 2011, 09:24 PM »
Technically it has a habit of using the bastardised #! format to indicate to search engines that it's AJAX-loaded content too...

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #39, on April 1st, 2011, 10:42 PM »
Err... Isn't it Twitter that does that?

And is it actually a 'format'? I thought it was just Twitter's way of handling the thing, maybe they just didn't like having just /#/ in the URL (which would work fine AFAIK)...

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #41, on April 1st, 2011, 11:48 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on April 1st, 2011, 09:12 PM
UTF8 languages are supported in my pretty URLs implementation. At least it works for Japanese.
I have to ask... to what extend? I mean, hiragana and katakana are relatively trivial (the same goes for hangul in Korean, by the way), but what about kanji? Not only are their readings different depending on context, but also on language (different in Chinese and Korean, for instance -- I figure you already know this, but there's more people reading).

Genuinely interested, really. :)
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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #42, on April 9th, 2011, 01:12 PM »
@Pete> Is it just me, or did Twitter actually revert back to its old website...? I don't see #! in the URL anymore, and the huge sidebar is gone...

@Aaron> You know, it's just a matter of stripping out the unsafe characters from URLs (#, /, things like that) and leaving out the rest... Since the matching is done in UTF mode, it does leave complex characters in the URL as expected. ;)

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #43, on April 9th, 2011, 04:04 PM »
I haven't been on Twitter in forever, I get all the updates I want via RSS ;)

Certainly, mobile.twitter.com doesn't but the again it doesn't have much need to.

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Re: Wedge & SEO
« Reply #44, on April 9th, 2011, 10:14 PM »
Quote from Nao/Gilles on April 9th, 2011, 01:12 PM
@Pete> Is it just me, or did Twitter actually revert back to its old website...? I don't see #! in the URL anymore, and the huge sidebar is gone...
I just looked and I see the new site and the #! in the URL.  There is still the option to view the old version though.
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