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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 3rd, 2013, 04:17 PM »
http://www.atheistthinktank.net/thinktank/index.php?board=86.0 :angel: (moderators board, so no public access)
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The Pub / Re: I asked my people to take a look at Wedge
« on May 3rd, 2013, 01:50 AM »
Quote from Arantor on May 3rd, 2013, 01:47 AM
Likes is built in. A fuller reputation (like the "Advanced Reputation System" mod) is planned.
Ah OK - that'll work fine. :)
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The Pub / Re: I asked my people to take a look at Wedge
« on May 3rd, 2013, 01:42 AM »
I'm not too worried about the mods I have. As I told you once, I don't install many mods. ;) But if I find I really need one I'll mention it.

Oh I know - what options does the karma have? Man I really need Karma to be documented to the person that assigns it. Does the Karma you plan to have go beyond SMF's lack of accountability?

The main thing is the little shock that comes from seeing a new interface and color scheme. That would be mainly for the other members. When I can get a test copy in the future I'll install it in a testing dir and let the staff muck around with it so their shock will be over by the time it's hooked to the main database.

Then we'll deal with the members complaining about this is missing and that is a different color. But of course, they should be wowed by the new toys as an offset.
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The Pub / I asked my people to take a look at Wedge
« on May 3rd, 2013, 01:31 AM »
The people who help me run my forum. I told them I may want to change in the future, but I want them to check it out for themselves. I can't say for sure, but it's looking like I would jump ship when the time comes. :o
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Bug reports / Re: PM Quoting
« on May 3rd, 2013, 12:51 AM »
OK - I didn't think it was a bug just not me being used to things here so I didn't want to post a bug report. But yes, I send myself PMs all the time using SMF 2.0.4 and then quote myself. I don't see that ability here.
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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 3rd, 2013, 12:46 AM »
Quote from runic on May 3rd, 2013, 12:41 AM
lets tell the truth now and stop that bs xrunner, I passed you to k@ as your message was on about various support team members, and I have personal issues meaning I could not answer you in a suitable time frame, nor in a suitable manner.  In simple terms end of term at uni and I have a report I need to pass and an exam coming up, I have even posted in team boards stating I wont be as active.
All I said was it was passed to the next person. That's correct and with no personal details, because I don't reveal that without permission - I didn't even say who I was talking to!

WTF? Do you want me to reveal all those details without your permission?

For fucks sake - you all must make up rules by the minute! If you have time to come here why don't you deal with the problem it would have been over by now!

Fuck me to tears.

Edit: And now people know I'm talking to K@! All these revelations are YOUR fault. :-/

Edit #2: I had to go to SMF and PM K@ to tell him that I did not violate what I told him, that I was not going to say who I was talking with and not quote any PMs. You sure made a mess dude.
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Bug reports / PM Quoting
« on May 2nd, 2013, 11:59 PM »
Maybe I'm not seeing how to do it here yet, but I sent a PM to myself yesterday (I do that a lot for my own notes) that had an embedded quote from another forum in it. When I went to to quote it so I could use it in a post, there was no option to do this that I could see. I could have copied all the text but that wouldn't have reproduced the quote properly.

Can I not quote my own PMs for other uses?

Thanks.
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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 2nd, 2013, 11:48 PM »
The person I was talking to passed me off to the next poor soul down the chain over there. So now they are trying to determine what I want to happen to make things right.

They know what I want done. What happens will tell me a lot.
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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 2nd, 2013, 05:07 PM »
Oh noes! Look what just appeared in the dreaded parenthesis thread! I'm sure glad I was able to capture this for the record before the head-knockers come along.
Quote from SimpleJoe on May 2nd, 2013, 04:49 PM
Much ado about a parenthesis ;)
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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 2nd, 2013, 03:56 AM »
Quote from Arantor on May 2nd, 2013, 03:44 AM
I'm slightly hesitant to straight-up implement that, though I'm not entirely sure why.
My thinking as to why it works (sometimes) is that the offender many times has a bias against "Officials" or "Admins" or "Moderators" and so on. Anyone with an official badge.

If they have to confront their peers (regular members) and can't blow it off, they will sometimes "get it". Now of course all this may be over-featureizing your design which is a very real concern. But even if you don't want to do it, it may lead to a new idea. I'm full of ideas if nothing else. :hmm:

I'm not a php guru, but I have seen the best and worst of forum politics, and had to deal with some very nasty situations. After all, isn't this interaction between people what it's all about? :)
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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 2nd, 2013, 03:35 AM »
Drafts! Duh! OK not used to that luxury ... :wow:
Quote from Arantor on May 2nd, 2013, 02:39 AM
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There must be (and from what I've read is) a lot of history leading up to this.
Topics like http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=498218.0 are the tail-end of it. It's all documented either here or on Noisen as to what happened and why we felt uncomfortable with things going the way they are going.

Thing is, that was 3 years ago and not really a lot has changed in that time. http://www.elkarte.net/index.php?topic=310.0 is also well worth the read.
Will do. I got some catching up to do.
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The biggest thing I'd say is read up on what's going on, feel free to ask about any features you think would be useful (or that you miss in other systems, or just that would be useful to your community and that might benefit others)... for example I found an old topic of yours that gave me some interesting thoughts. I don't know that what I have planned will entirely resolve it but I certainly agree the tools are not up to the job as they stand.
Ha! Well I'll be. Out of the mouths of babes - so to speak.

Sure I'll continue to read along and play with the knobs as I see them.

One idea I've implemented on several forums (using the built-in permissions and such) is what I've called on one forum "The Asbestos-Lined room" on another "The Emergency Room" and on my current forum "The Isolation Tank". I think you are familiar with the concept. Instead of banning a member or placing them in moderation I send them to a board that is the only board they can see when logged in. This until they either understand how to behave (after being grilled by the other members) or, if they don't cooperate, get banned. Sometimes it works when other methods fail. I don't know if that could be a built-in option for moderation. A check box that would implement such a "room". Just an idea to kick around. For my type of  forum "customers" it comes in really handy.
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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 2nd, 2013, 02:58 AM »
Damn!

I just lost a big post. The whole screen filled up with random text when I previewed it. >:(

I know I should have typed in an external editor. Maybe the forum logged me out right in the middle of it all. :hmm:

I'll try it again tomorrow.

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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 2nd, 2013, 02:30 AM »
I'm not sure why I missed being aware of this project. I read you mentioning Wedge before but it didn't connect that it was another forum project. There must be (and from what I've read is) a lot of history leading up to this.

Is there anything I can do to help? I'll try to keep up with what's going on and keep investigating the user experience here. I'd love to test it but I know there are probably more capable people doing that now. Shoot, from what I can see I'd consider moving my forum over when it's ready.
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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 2nd, 2013, 02:20 AM »
Quote from Arantor on May 2nd, 2013, 02:16 AM
Given who the author of Footnotes was, is that really a surprise?
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 1. No. :)
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Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 2nd, 2013, 02:09 AM »
I just got 1000 posts over at SMF, so now I'm a "sophist".

I'm not sure if they consider that good or bad. :o

1.
a. One skilled in elaborate and devious argumentation.
b. A scholar or thinker.
2. Sophist Any of a group of professional fifth-century b.c. Greek philosophers and teachers who speculated on theology, metaphysics, and the sciences, and who were later characterized by Plato as superficial manipulators of rhetoric and dialectic.
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Oh you got footnotes! Crap love that mod! One of the best (IMHO), well most useful, ever.
 1. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sophist