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Off-topic / Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« on May 5th, 2013, 06:33 PM »
Quote from Wanchope on May 5th, 2013, 06:10 PM
Sure, he was using SMF but he recently hired programmers who designed a pyton custom script him, his link
Well ... I don't know about your competing on content but I believe you can blow them away with pretty much a standard SMF or other forum installation. That place looks ... just awful. :sob:

I do see a lot of posts that have been hidden, and other gems like this one -

How To Hack Any Email Account

Lovely. :hmm:
Off-topic / Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« on May 5th, 2013, 06:04 PM »
Quote from Wanchope on May 5th, 2013, 03:02 PM
^^ Remove it? That's understatement, he will ban me instantly. I will try to start a topic of that but I have seen many of them before. Just thinking I don't have to draw my traffic from his forum.
OK, I gotta check out this place. Can you post the link to it?
Off-topic / Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« on May 5th, 2013, 02:40 PM »
Quote from Wanchope on May 5th, 2013, 05:44 AM
I have account in the other forum but not active, just a few posts there, making friends or drawing followers are quite hard as the admin discouraged it from day 1, he calls it –avoiding revolution. Pm is disabled and other communication line between users cut.
Well that guy sounds like a real ass. Can you make a signature with a link to your forum? Surely members don't like those restrictions. You could try advertising your forum like "We have PMs enabled and love revolution here! --> xxxxxxxx"

Oh but I suppose the idiot would remove it.
Off-topic / Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« on May 5th, 2013, 04:11 AM »
Quote from Wanchope on May 4th, 2013, 04:47 PM
Thanks @xrunner
You're welcome. :)
I started from sports, traffic but no participation, I added technology and there is a bit improvement, maybe I have to forget how successful my 'enemy' is and mind my own business.
Well I've had a few glasses of wine so I'm free-thinking here ...

Use a little politics. :)

Are you a member of the other forum you are competing with? If so, you must have some friends there. Try to build a group that agrees with your ideas. Tell them you are going to start another forum and ask them to help out. If you play your cards right, you can get some good helpers to assist you. Don't go it alone. I'd never have had any success going it alone. I had people who agreed with me and helped me in the beginning. Not with the technical aspect but with the social/political aspect. :cool:

These people will bring along other people you don't know. Work it all from both ends. :)
Quote from Arantor on May 5th, 2013, 01:34 AM
See my edited post ;)
Yes sir. :)
Quote from Arantor on May 5th, 2013, 01:32 AM
Put the colour outside the link rather than inside. It's a side effect of the shortening facility we have for links:

Code: [Select]
[color=teal][url=]Atheist Think Tank[/url][/color]

Atheist Think Tank
Ah OK, I was doing it the way I've always done it elsewhere. :)
Norticed when mucking with my profile. When I added a color it changed the color but added three dots in front of the text.

Atheist Think Tank

Code: [Select]
[url=]Atheist Think Tank[/url]

Atheist Think Tank

Code: [Select]
[url=][color=teal]Atheist Think Tank[/color][/url]
FAQs / [FAQ] Re: Minimum requirements
« on May 4th, 2013, 07:55 PM »
Quote from Arantor on May 4th, 2013, 07:43 PM
The installer will validate it anyway.

If you have SMF installed and SMF can resize avatars, you have GD installed. (The 'version check' page will tell you for certain)
Yea I just verified it resizes them. Yippee! :cool:
FAQs / [FAQ] Re: Minimum requirements
« on May 4th, 2013, 07:42 PM »
I've been reading the FAQ like a good boy. :)

In the future when I want to try out this software it says I need the following -

Server side:

PHP 5.2 or higher
MySQL 5.1 or higher
GD2 graphic library for PHP

I verified the first two, but I can't see any tool in Cpanel to check if the GD2 graphic library for PHP exists. Do I need to worry about that (is it a basic package that should be there)? How do I verify it's there?

Off-topic / Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« on May 4th, 2013, 02:22 PM »
Quote from wanchope on May 4th, 2013, 06:23 AM
^^Lucky you, your Competitor is stupid enough to allow the crashing of his forum. Mine is not as he is running on dedicated server which he is managing himself.
Oh he's stupid alright. Not only is (was) the former Admin an idiot (not the guys running it now), the person that owns the domain and forum can't be gotten hold of. He doesn't use the forum at all nor care that it's operating. The forum has been stuck in a release candidate version for years because neither I nor the people who run it now can get him to answer emails. It's like it's stuck in the Twilight Zone forever.
I created a general purpose forum that will be flexible to be offering all topics. I started from sports angle it was getting some traffic from Google but that is it. My competitor offers it as well and it is very lively down there.
General purpose forum? I just don't think that's going to get you very far wanchope. You really need a focus and content that others don't have, a take on a topic that nobody else is presenting. You mentioned sports and "all topics". I'm sorry to say, in my mind, that isn't going to get you anywhere, unless you just want a hobby to tinker with.
I added technology, there is am immediate impact, few members but fewer post. Some manages to ask questions but will not return to see the answer. Some just appreciate your efforts but thats it. Back in my competitor's house, he is banning as many members as possible, insulting and telling them he doesn't need them and yet they are there asking for forgiveness. Are they blind? Can't they see there is a 'better' option?
Well that's the community aspect of the forum working. People form bonds with other members on forums. Bad things can happen and they still want to interact with the people they are friends with. In fact taking into account the bonds that forum, banning certain popular members can create even more drama on the forum that people like to watch, sorta like watching a massive car accident - ever notice all the people that stop and watch? You'll have a group that supports the ban, and another that supports the banned member, PMs will start flying ... Notice the tag line for this project - "Community Builder"? Well that's really true for forums.

I haven't been banned from too many forums but I was banned last year from a model train forum. Even though they had an off-topic area they didn't know how to moderate it very well. Since I have very strong forum personality and views :), I would get into politics and religion and before you knew it the longer term members (sort of old fogies) would call the Mod Squad in because they couldn't handle it. Instead of moderating things properly before things blew up, I got the blame for it and finally got the Ban Hammer. But the point is I still miss the interaction with some of the friends I made, that's why I put up with the poor staff there for a long time.

So the point is, you are not only trying to compete on content, you are trying to pull off members that have formed bonds at the other forum(s). It's tough to do. In order to do that your content is going to have to be above and beyond what they have.
Off-topic / Re: Surviving Your Competitor
« on May 4th, 2013, 01:17 AM »
Quote from wanchope on May 4th, 2013, 12:59 AM
Most posts are made by you. In such case, how do you survive? Suggestions are needed.
It's gonna be hard. Really hard. I don't know what the subject of your forum is, but when I started my forum I was able to "steal" a large amount of members because the other forum we were all hanging out at was crashing a lot, and the admin was an idiot. Luckily I was able to keep a fair amount of members, but even then it's very hard to get new members. I've even tried ads and Facebook and other things. I shut it down for a year but brought it up again with no pie-in-the-sky dreams. I'm fine with that now. It's just a hobby.

The only thing that draws people is content. It might be debating a viewpoint (like my forum) or information that people really need, or entertainment they like to enjoy. Without knowing what your subject is I can't say much more. But I will say you have a tough row to hoe out there. It's a jungle.

Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 3rd, 2013, 09:14 PM »
Quote from Kindred on May 3rd, 2013, 09:03 PM
lol... I know arantor - but, IIRC, his problem was that the parens ended up being uneven (space on one side, not on the other)  I was asking him if it went back to being even...  (and I just realized that wasn't clear.. oops... *runs back to smf to correct the post)
Kindred - he's got two issues going on.

1. He doesn't want the spaces on either side on this line --> Latest Post: "Re: Adk Blog (New versio..." ( Today at 12:31:33 PM )

^^^ My forum is operating OK and has these spaces, so reloading won't fix that.

2. He's got one space here at the beginning paren. he doesn't want --> Most Online Today: 39. Most Online Ever: 77 ( February 11, 2012, 14:15:19 PM)

^^^ My forum is operating OK and DOESN"T have that first space. Isn't the re-loading of his forum supposed to only address the last space issue? It can't fix the first one because that's the design. And it won't make even spaces on the second problem because the default is no spaces (like my forum).

You seemed to think it would make all spaces come back "
Quote from Kindred on May 3rd, 2013, 08:53 PM
now - do note: this will reset your files to the default, which means that ALL SPACES WILL BE BACK.
Even the SMF forum doesn't have spaces in the Most Online Today line ... so all spaces will not "come back"

I'm spaced out myself now.

Reference his complaint here -
Quote from rimh101 on April 27th, 2013, 02:12 PM

I don't understand what exactly you mean, I wrote clearly and understanding where I have a problem on my forum, first post  is about:

Latest Post: "Re: Adk Blog (New versio..." ( Today at 12:31:33 PM )

So how you see, here is something different, but I have a problem with that:

Most Online Today: 39. Most Online Ever: 77 ( February 11, 2012, 14:15:19 PM)

Do you understand?
Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 3rd, 2013, 07:52 PM »
Meanwhile, back at the ranch -
Quote from rimh101 on May 3rd, 2013, 07:21 PM
I loaded everything almost Avatars file, because I thing that I don't need to overwrite this. Unfortunately nothing helped, the space is still in that parentheses
He reloaded all the SMF files and directories and the spaces are still there. >:(

Will rimh101 ever get rid of those spaces?

Will Drunken Clam get into trouble for posting in the thread?

Will xrunner ever question another user why they want something fixed?

Stay tuned for answers to those and other questions in further episodes of "As the Parenthesis Turns" ...
Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 3rd, 2013, 04:52 PM »
Quote from Kindred on May 3rd, 2013, 04:49 PM
ummm... I'll point out one thing. The link emanuele pointed to was regarding the conversation ARANTOR and I were having.

You're not the center of the world.
Arantor, I'm trying to play nice but I don't think it's working very well. :-/
Other software / Re: My review of customer service on SMF
« on May 3rd, 2013, 04:39 PM »
Quote from Arantor on May 3rd, 2013, 04:25 PM
Play nice children.
I'll try to. :)
Quote from Kindred on May 3rd, 2013, 04:27 PM
emanuele was just posting a link to the thread discussing your deleting posts and the reaction we had and that I took. :)
And at that link I'm also talking about the situation. Can't I post hidden links like emanuele?
It's all water under the bridge at this point.
I don't think so. Now that the person I've been talking to has been revealed, I will say that K@ is a very straight-up nice person to deal with. How's that for playing nice. I don't know yet what will happen but at least he's giving me the impression he's fair.

He's put forward a suggestion as to how we can all get this over with. I said I'd be willing to go along if you and Kays would do the same. Are you willing to move forward and try to get along? I am if you are. I'd first say to you I apologize for calling you a coward.